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#46
General National 12 chat / Re: Rutland
30 Jun 2017, 10:52
Sorry we have a breakdown in communication here. No camping on site.  The Latest Chapter is wrong

The Campsite is essentially the overflow car park for the club.  Email is nem@clara.co.uk as per the website

It is not free.  Campsite has no facilities, it is a case of using the club.

John
#48
I am pretty sure that we will be camping.  Ollie and I stayed here whilst he was Oppie sailing last summer.  It was basic but did what we needed


http://www.swallowsrestselfcatering.co.uk/martleaves-farm-campsite/


It gets mixed reviews on trip advisor, but they highlight the same issues generally.  £21 a night for a large tent.


John
#49
Entry form here


http://www.salcombeyc.org.uk/open-meetings


Early entry discount until 20 April



#50
Have a go with both as the feel will be very different.

Experience suggests the following:

       
  • 1. There is less feel with a T-foil - important in light winds
  • 2. T-foil provides both lift and drag.  In low winds drag can be a problem (also no "feel" see number 1)
  • 3. If you are not comfortable sailing the boat flat then T-foil is a handicap (but see number 4)
  • 4. T-foil makes high speed gybing and general windy sailing much much easier as it provides stability
  • 5. Wings swept aft and upwards (dihedral) seem to be quickest arrangement
  • 6. Wings catch weed - so think about where you are sailing
  • 7. T-foil is definitely faster as soon as you are both sat on the same side
Enjoy!


#51
Tom

thanks for organising a great days racing.  I love the short format for practising in a small fleet.  I think we should do it more often when we have 12 - 20 boats racing.

John
#52
Hi Kean
Welcome back!
I suspect Rain and Sun and P&B both have patterns for a Paradigm 2.  They have both made covers for them.
John
#53
Hi Andy


Congrats on the purchase of 3344, a fantastic boat.


page 8 of the Class Association annual booklet tells all in this regard.  It is complex, that is what happens if you have development but wish to maintain some competition.  I think that it is better to potentially be complicated than to ignore.


If not a member of the Class Association, please do join - it pays for this forum, organises the fixtures you might want to attend and supports the value of your boat.  And it also subsidises events such as 12 Fest.


So, back to the original Q


All 12s are eligible to win the main prizes in the Class and all 12s can enter all events except for Vintage events


The key determinants are:


Winged foil - my estimate is 50 boats fit in this group
Double floored with no winged foil - my estimate is 100 boats
Single floored - complies to the pre 1996 buoyancy rules - with no winged foil - about 900 boats built - this includes "4 plank boats"
Vintage - built of clinker construction to designs prior to 1975 - with no winged foil - about 2,500 boats built


The idea is that clinker hulls are slowest.  Smooth skin hulls fall into single floor until the 1996 buoyancy changes.  Double floors reduce the water carried and maker the boat stiffer, making the boats quicker.  Winged foils are clearly a significant retro fit opportunity and complicate each group (as was the double floor to a lesser extent). 


You with 3344 are therefore double floored with no winged foil.


The real answer is to go for a wing on 3344 - notably 3443 another Final Chapter has done this.  race results from Burton Week last year were 7,6,4, before a retirement and then going home early


Have fun, hope to see you at 12 fest


John Meadowcroft
#54
And the winners were....


2015 Neal and Freya Lillywhite
2016 John and Bryony Thornton


More than 60 people at Upper Thames SC.  Chris Edwards presented the prizes and told us tales from the past.  A throughly good afternoon.


Full results will get published in the events part of the website.


John
#55
Hi


More than 35 signed up....
10 days to go.
Our capacity is limited, so you might not have 10 days to get in touch.


John
#56



The Vegetarian alternative is "Mrs Savage's extraordinary vegetable lasagne".  With pudding it is £11 for adults and £7 for kids.


10 signed up in 3 days so far, email me on johnandkaty12@gmail.com or 07801 137702


John
#57



Happy New Year to you all!


The N12 Thames Area Lunch and Prizegiving for 2015 did not happen so we have a double header prizegiving lunch scheduled for 22 January at Upper Thames SC, Bourne End, SL8 5RF.


It is also time to celebrate Mandy Thornton and Neal Lillywhite's birthday on the same day.


Sunday 22 January 2017 from 12.30pm


Roast Lamb and all the trimmings with pudding of chocolate brownie and ice cream.



£12.50 adults, £7.50 children



Vegetarian alternative available - I can't confirm what it is right now, but will do so shortly.


regards
John


johnandkaty12@gmail.com
07801137702
#58
Hi Stuart
This hit the post box today.  finally.....
Hope they fit nice and snug.
Sorry for the delay.
See you somewhere when it is warmer
John
#59
General National 12 chat / Re: Training
10 Nov 2014, 08:07
This was a very good days sailing
Hoping that next year we can do something bigger and better.  Great to practice and try new stuff.  An excellent reminder of how much fun practising is.  Maybe that is why all the youth classes do so much of it?
What did we learn?
Our best tip was that the National Champions do not release their jib stick until after they have gybed when it is windy - and guess what - it is a better way to do it than the way we were doing it previously.  
John
#60
Neal
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