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The entry list so far is here - updated 24/08/2021

Philip
The mast foot position needs to be set to work with the jib-mainsail ratio and also the centre board position and yes it does therefore tend to be design specific. If the mast foot is in the wrong place then you'll either feel weather or lee helm on the tiller. If you let us know the design you have then we (or other N12 owners) can probably provided some guidance. Typically the mast foot is measured from the transom as that is an eaier measurement point
Happy tuning
Graham

Stephen
The principles in the guide should work for old and new boats alike. There are two good newsletter article which describes the settings for a Design 8 and the Crusader will be similar

https://www.national12.org/scripts/newsletter/index.php?p=5&year=1990-2&image-folder=images
https://www.national12.org/scripts/newsletter/index.php?p=11&year=1992-2&image-folder=images
Worth checking these out for inspiration
Graham

Stephen

The tuning guide on the website has lots of good instructions and tips on how to set up yoru rig, it's available to National 12 Owner's Association Members at https://www.national12.org/hints/tuning_guide/ can you access it?

Happy tuning

Graham

Phil
The foil rudder has been quite an innovation. It works with some designs better than other though and I'm not sure if anyone has tried a foiling rudder on a Big Issue. Designs with more rocker and less wetted surface area seem to suit foils so I'm not sure it will work on a Big Issue which has quite a flat planing area. In theory the winged rudder should help the boat carry more weight but I sail at the lighter end of the weight range so can't really comment.

If you are sailing at in the region of 25 Stone all up then I'd strongly recommend a Final Chapter as they are proven to carry weight well thought there have been some heavy weight crews in Big Issues who have done well I think the Final Chapter would be a safer bet. There is one for sail on the website at the moment https://www.national12.org/adverts/index.php?page=item&id=1788

Happy choosing
Graham

Hi Phil


Carbon doesn't go soft or absorb water really so the 12s built in the last 20-25 years are generally in pretty good shape.

N3500 is a Big Issue which is a reasonably stable design. She might have a modified floor and may not be double bottomed throughout so worth checking whether that concerns you. If you fancy a more tippy design then some Feeling Foolishes have been coming up.

All up minimum weight is 78kg (including mast and centre board). I'd expect the certificate to show she is close to that and ideally there should be a few Kg of correctors for some future proofing.

Key things to look out for a cracks in the hull joints - but this hasn't been a problem in the Big Issues. Carbon - Foam does dint so have a look for those but these are typically cosmetic.

Where abouts to do you plan to sail and what sort of all up weight do you expect to be sailing with?

Regards

Graham

I'm crew and boat-less for the open so if anyone would like a helm, has a spare boat or would like a crew please let me know. I'm happy to jump in the front of a 12 and give some racing coaching tips as we go

Graham

Roamer with further restoration  by  Martin Royle  Photos from Martin

The tuning guide on the website gives some good tips on jib sheeting set up. Have a look at https://www.national12.org/hints/tuning_guide/
Happy tuning
Graham

There is a tuning guide on the website https://www.national12.org/hints/tuning_guide/ which gives you some excellent tips on rig set up. This is accessible to Association Members. Suggest you have a read of that and then post any queries here.
Happy sailing
Graham

Does anyone need a crew for Salcombe?

 

It is with much excitement that the N12 Class are able to share details of the planned 85^th Anniversary Event in 2021. On 11^th and 12^th September 2021, at Northampton Sailing Club, the National 12 class are holding a celebration weekend event for our 85^th birthday and we are calling on all current, past and future N12 sailors, enthusiasts and supporters to enjoy a weekend of National 12s. We are planning for one day of fleet racing and then a 'Grand Pursuit Race' with the oldest N12s starting first. See the 85th Anniversary website for more details.

Please add your name to thread if you are planning to join us

It is with much sadness that yesterday I learnt of the news that sadly Ewen Stamp has passed away following a short illness. Ewen had a very keen interest in the National 12 and the NTOA, spanning over 6 decades, from joining as an associate member in 1962 and even after selling his last N12 in 2003, continued as a member. More recently he enjoyed sailing his yacht and then his motor cruiser 'Imke', both were kept at RHYC on the River Orwell. Moreover, Ewen was still racing his Solo in club racing last year and won the RHYC's RNLI All In Race, during late October 2020. This was the maiden outing for his newly acquired Keyhaven Scow.

It is impossible for me to give full credit to Ewen's contribution to the National 12 Class and there are many who knew him for longer than I did, however in recent years we enjoyed many a discussion in the bar after racing at RHYC. Ewen would fondly recall National 12 events from 15, 20, 30 and even 40 years ago in great detail and these stories were fascinating. He took an interest in our new National 12, (N3551) and was certainly pleased to see a growing fleet at RHYC last year.

In the 1960s, as crew, Ewen sailed with Robin Steavenson in N2053, N1153, N153 and attended many opening meetings. They were an unbeaten team in 1962 until the first weekend of North West Norfolk Week in August of that year. Robin referred to Ewen as a "gentleman's gentleman". Ewen would tow the National 12 or International 14 to open meetings, allowing Robin to save time by going straight from his surgery to the event!

Ewen later went on to helm with his wife Mary as crew, with a number of race and trophy wins collected over the years, including finishing 2^nd in the Burton 50^th Anniversary Regatta in Poole, 1986 sailing N1153 and winning the Corrigan Cup at Burton Week. Like many N12 sailors, over the years Ewen enjoyed owning a number of National 12s including:

   
• N 2382 – Sutler – Proctor Mark 14
• N 2477 – Watermark – China Doll
• N 2650 – Paper Chase – Paper Dart
• N 3211 – Philatelist - Crusader
• N 3292 – Mailstrom – Design 8
• N 3453 – E Mail – Final Chapter

Ewen was of course one of the rare individuals who have held the office of NTOA Secretary and NTOA Chairman, which he carried out with rigour – as one would expect from Ewen. He was the NTOA Secretary from 1969 – 1972 and NTOA Chairman from 1980 – 1982.

Ewen Stamp - August 1939 – January 2021

Our thoughts are with Mary and the family at this sad time.
George Finch

The NTOA AGM will take place on Tuesday 1st September at 7.30pm over Zoom. Details were circulated to all members with the papers, but if you can't find them please contact the webmaster. We need a minimum of 20 members to attend to make it a valid meeting so please take the time to dial in if you can.

Have you checked out the boat handling tips on the N12 website at https://www.national12.org/hints/coaching/coaching_tacking.shtml these might give you some ideas
Happy sailing
Graham