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Boats / Re: N3335 Crazy Marmot
« on: November 23, 2019, 03:53:20 PM »
Congratulations!  I hope we'll see you in the N12 fleet at Norfolk Week (1st - 8th August)?  Sure to be excellent fun, and just up the road for you!   Dave Cooper  (N3405 Denouement)

General National 12 chat / Re: Cold Moulded Veneers
« on: October 02, 2019, 08:54:56 PM »
Maybe...........  you should ask Gerry Ledger?   His details are in the new boats section of 'boats for sale' and I bet he can tell you exactly what you need and supply it too!   Dave

General National 12 chat / Re: Top batten tension
« on: March 03, 2019, 07:04:24 PM »
Well, another light wind day at OASC (plus continuous drizzle, lovely!) and i have to state that easing off the top batten seems a pretty good idea!  Getting the batten to pop through was loads easier and I thought we were quicker too.  It makes me think I've had the batten too tight for the year I've owned this sail!   ::) .Thanks for the help and advice!  - now for a carbon boom.      Dave

General National 12 chat / Re: Top batten tension
« on: February 26, 2019, 10:19:17 PM »
Many thanks for the responses.  The kicker is slack (but the boom is heavy!), and both the shrouds are off.     I'll play around with batten tension and see what I discover!       The Europe is pretty quick:  helmed by a junior called Joseph who weighs in at about 50kg.  I'll point him at the boat survey if he hasn't heard about it.  The club is Ouse Amateur at King's Lynn.  There's a useful gaggle of Europes quite close at Overy Staithe, so maybe Joseph will do some sailing with them this summer.  Dave Cooper

General National 12 chat / Top batten tension
« on: February 25, 2019, 10:05:25 PM »
Hi,  does anyone think it would be a good idea to de-tension the top batten a bit when the wind is very light?  It occurs to me that it might be good to get the top of the sail a bit flatter, and maybe make the batten a little easier to pop through when tacking and gybing.   The pic shows what conditions were like on Sunday. 

I guess you can easily tell from what boats we've got around us how much we were struggling in this one!  Dave Cooper

General National 12 chat / Re: Heavy crew set up
« on: August 08, 2018, 01:28:16 PM »
I'm sailing a chapter, too, and really enjoying it!   At a guess me and Mouse are probably getting on for your total crew weight (Mouse's actual weight is a state secret, apparently!).  As well as Dare's advice about getting the fore & aft trim right (we can easily tell if we're trimmed too far aft - the boat sinks because the flaps don't seal all that well!), I'd suggest that keeping your rig powered up is pretty important:  I was quite bewildered initially that in breezes where we were just about hiked, the boat seemed slow to windward, but eventually I realised that I had the kicker on to de-twist the mainsail and get the boat to point, but because I didn't have enough mast ram pulled, the mast was bending too much and de-powering the main.   Similarly, it took me a while to realise that letting off lots of outhaul made the boat reach much faster,  and dumping both shrouds down the run so that the mast goes right to the front of the gate is pretty speedy too! 
On the plus side, chapters are supposed to be the boat if you're a crew at the top end of the weight range, so at least we're sailing the right thing!
Dave Cooper

General National 12 chat / Re: Norfolk Week 2018
« on: June 28, 2018, 08:36:54 PM »
I'll be there with 3405.   Bring it on!   ;D   Dave Cooper

Boats / Re: N1509 Gonzales
« on: June 01, 2018, 09:43:41 AM »
Well, here's 1509 going for her first sail since god-knows-when.  There was a dinghy park sticker on the mast from 1993, so it could be 25 years!   This is the 1957 rig - pretty darn good for age.

Now it's back to the shed for some small scale woodwork and some large scale varnishing.  Buy shares in Epiphanes now!
Dave Cooper

General National 12 chat / Re: Any Sails for Sale?
« on: May 04, 2018, 05:26:06 PM »
Hi, I can offer a P'n'B jib (2002 vintage so made for previous rule)  in reasonably crisp nick.  Unfortunately the matching mainsail came apart right along one seam last year, so not really worth messing with!  Dave

General National 12 chat / Re: Tigress floor
« on: April 27, 2018, 09:34:28 AM »
Hi Dave,
I'm sure there will be more and much better informed advice on here, but I'd be a bit wary of adding a load more buoyancy in the bottom of the boat in case it makes the boat more prone to a quick inversion and more difficult to right from a capsize.
I'm another newb in N12s (but a lifelong capsize addict  ::) ) and it certainly is tough to get the boat drained out if there isn't enough wind!  Given a good planing breeze, though, it squirts out of the back in seconds, so I suggest you just have to restrict your capsizing to windier days!   Sailing two up may help - I've only single-handed my boat (final chapter) a couple of times - it's fun and fast, but there's a real lot for one person to do.  Before I bought the boat I was a bit trepidatious - who would I sail with? - but my experience is that if you ask around there are actually plenty of people weird enough to enjoy sailing an N12!
Dave Cooper

Boats / Re: N1509 Tam O' Shanter
« on: April 21, 2018, 09:32:46 PM »
Well, I'm now the very surprised custodian of N1509!   The reason I'm surprised is that the last owner told me that she'd been sitting in his back garden under a tarp for 15 years, and I concluded that I'd be looking at a very sad bonfire awaiting a source of ignition.  I mean, 15 years?  What plywood boat is going to survive that long?   Well, the answer to that is a Proctor Mk4A built by  Chippendale, apparently.  The varnish is a bit distressed in places, the coat of white gloss (mistake!) on the inside is only hanging on by force of habit, but the woodwork is pretty darned sound.  The wooden mast and boom are good to go (diamond wires!, galvanised halyards!) and the original sails are certainly good enough to take for a drive.   Attached pics show the boat under the tarp, and as revealed!

This boat was re-named 'Gonzales' in 1990-something, apparently after the cartoon mouse 'Speedy Gonzales'.  I'm not wedded to Tam'O'Shanter, so I guess it stays as Gonzales. 

General National 12 chat / Re: Quote of the weekend
« on: March 13, 2018, 08:28:03 AM »
Ents are ok: not many thrills, but not many spills.  Obviously nothing like as much raw fun as an N12!  The real difference is that Ents (and most dinghy classes) have been designed to appeal to a broad range of sailors and abilities and Nationals have been designed to win the Burton Cup.  Not too surprising there are more Enterprises!   Dave

General National 12 chat / Re: Shrouds
« on: March 09, 2018, 10:24:04 PM »
Messy!   Yup, in about 1970-something I crewed on a quarter-tonner that had shrouds that worked like that:  there were soft eyes in the shrouds and that thing that looks like a giant rivet in your pic goes through the eyes.  The giant rivet thingy must come out:  your pic isn't very clear but it looks as if it has internal splines.  I suspect it is in two halves threaded together and you can unscrew it using either allan keys or torx drivers.  But I may be totally wrong about all that, of course!

PS the quarter tonner's mast was made by Kemp (dunno what became of them!).  I remember it had another weird feature: on either side of the mast there was a textured strip (ran all the way from the gooseneck to the top) which was supposed to be a turbulence-generator which (the skipper said confidently) improved laminar flow across the mainsail.  I've never seen that anywhere else, either!

General National 12 chat / Re: New Sails
« on: January 29, 2018, 04:29:42 PM »
Yup, I just bought some HDs as well.  A bit of a distress purchase because 3405's 2002-vintage P'n'Bs are falling apart (can't claim that we haven't had our money's worth!).  At that rate I'll need another set in 2034.   Dave Cooper

General National 12 chat / Re: What are you doing for Christmas ?
« on: December 23, 2017, 11:14:45 PM »
DIY version of a tactic.   This is the proof of concept version, not the seagoing version (you might guess!).  Cost of bits so far, about 25, so should save a few bob on a commercial one!

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