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General National 12 chat / Re: Burton Week 2021 - Shoreham S.C.
« on: February 09, 2021, 11:26:45 PM »
Meadowcrofts coming in 3431, 3471 and 3543.
Who will get to sail which boat?

General National 12 chat / Re: Halyard
« on: January 24, 2021, 06:01:36 PM »
I use a 2:1 halyard.  It is secured to the top of the mast and a shackle on the line fixes to the head of the sail.

I use 4mm kingfisher compact braid 78 rope

Where it cleats I insert a small length of the rope halyard line to make it thicker.  I find thick diameter in the cleat is my friend.


General National 12 chat / Salcombe YC regatta
« on: January 15, 2021, 04:45:03 PM »

Open for entries!  Refunds etc if it cannot go ahead. 

Sunday 1 to Friday 6 August

Wonderful place to sail, nice beaches.  Options for self catering or camping.  We camped last summer a couple of miles out of town.  We kept the 12 on the beach and a little inflatable in the town boat park which we swapped for the car when we came into town.

Book boat parking in the town with Salcombe Harbour Authority


General National 12 chat / Re: Newbie.
« on: January 15, 2021, 04:40:53 PM »
Hi John

I remember you!  I hope you can find the boat you are looking for.  It would be great to have you back.


General National 12 chat / Charlie Lloyd
« on: December 22, 2020, 09:51:49 PM »
Hi everyone

Many 12 sailors will be aware that Charlie Lloyd, stalwart of the Salcombe National 12 fleet, unbelievably passed away in August having suffered a heart attack whilst out cycling with friends.  Helen and Charlie had sold Paradocs earlier in the summer and many of us had seen him sailing his Solo whilst we were in Salcombe earlier that month.  It was unbelievable given how fit that Charlie was - he had run a sub 3 hour marathon!  Charlie was kind, generous and humble.  He was not a regular race winner but he loved the competition, the rivalry and the thrill.  He represented everything that is good about 12 sailors and the N12 family.  I miss his observations on the world and his advice.  I am pretty sure I am not alone. 

Helen has written to me and asked me to share the message below with you all.

We thank you all for your great kindness and thoughtful words after Charlie died and for beautiful flowers. We had so many good times with the fleet, who, of course, we always let beat us to make the journey to the south west worthwhile. Thank you  for friendship, guidance and support and coping with Para-docs as we careered around and keeping us in mind at our darkest hour. We had planned to send Christmas cards to thank you individually   but couldn't quite muster it so please accept this and know we look forward to seeing you in Salcombe when it is next possible.Greeting us with a smile  is most  helpful.  We can't help what has happened to us but we can choose how to respond and we choose to look back with appreciation. Keep well, keep enjoying life.
Good tidings and ON ON as the runners say.
Helen , Sam & Rosie Lloyd

General National 12 chat / Re: T-foil rudder of WASZP
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:35:25 PM »
Agreed, I have a foil with a pretty standard wing set up on a vertical which is tiny.  I could not steer on start lines at low speed.  But it was very fast once everyone had gone and I had a little bit of space.  I went back to plan A

General National 12 chat / Re: Inlands Draycote 7 November
« on: October 09, 2020, 06:49:21 PM »
2 x Meadowcroft boats entered.  Who else is coming?

Sign up below if you have entered - the club site does not appear to list entries.

General National 12 chat / Inlands Draycote 7 November
« on: October 09, 2020, 06:48:24 PM »
The inland championships and final Dinghy Shack event have been re-arranged as a one-day event at Draycote Water on Saturday 7th Nov. The Draycote Waterevent is no longer at Northampton SC as the club were unfortunately unable to host the planned two day event that weekend.
[/size]We need a minimum of 20 entries by 31st October for the event to run so please don't delay - enter today, support the class and enjoy the final National event of 2020. Details of the event are as follows:
    • The event notice board will be on WhatsApp as per the NoR and also posted on the N12 Discussion board and N12 Facebook Page. Enter here.
    • The prize giving for the Inlands is intended to take place on the day.
    • The prize giving for the N12 Dinghy Shack Series 2020 will take place after the event as a virtual/online get-together.
    • Please read the NoR for important information about the logistics for the event

    General National 12 chat / Re: Cascade Kicker
    « on: October 09, 2020, 05:26:32 PM »
    I think that the simple answer is no as there are two many variables.

    You will want the top block as close to the boom as possible so that you can maximise travel.  I would make out of splicing ropes - they should be fine with wire blocks - set up tying bowlines where you see fit and then adjust and finally splice, remembering that there will be a little stretch.  You will need to sail in both light (with mast upright) and windy conditions (mast raked) to understand the range of travel that you need. 

    A standard measurement for the take of point is 600mm along the boom from the back of the mast.


    General National 12 chat / Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
    « on: September 29, 2020, 08:09:57 PM »
    I love the “hands apart” advice.  Top tekkers

    General National 12 chat / Re: RHYC Regatta 30th & 31st August 2020
    « on: August 28, 2020, 08:32:31 PM »
    Meadowcroft’s are coming!

    General National 12 chat / Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
    « on: August 01, 2020, 11:38:07 AM »
    Sailing along close hauled.

    Tiller in hand nearest back of the boat, mainsheet in hand closest to the front.

    Swap hands.

    Feet are really important.  Start steering into the turn, mainsheet still fully in.  Foot closest to the bow must more first and needs to cross the centreline.  Then as you pass head to wind twist around facing the stern which will mean your other foot crosses the centreline.  Ease some mainsheet.

    Keep the tiller extension outboard on the new tack.

    Sit on the new high side.  Hands are already sorted (you did this before you moved the tiller!). Pull the mainsheet back in.

    Through the tack allow your hand to slide up and down the tiller extension as necessary.  It makes your life easier!

    Have a look at the 2002 video from 1 min 10 seconds in for some nice tacks

    And in the 2020 video at 1 minute 20.

    Final top tip - keep it slow, don’t oversteer, move gently.  Your weight hitting the new high side should cause a “ripple” effect on the shroud which will cause the top batten to flick over on to the new tack.

    General National 12 chat / Re: Martin Clarke
    « on: July 09, 2020, 06:12:22 PM »
    I am very sad hear this.  I have not seen Martin for a few years.  A jolly nice chap to sail against.  His boats were always immaculately presented.  He did a great job on a Paper Dart earlier this year.  He will be missed.

    General National 12 chat / Re: Burton Cup format
    « on: April 14, 2020, 05:56:50 PM »
    If anyone can find the deed of gift / clarify that one ever existed then that would be a start!

    My understanding of the history is that the Burton Cup was the long race of Burton Week.  Back then all courses were triangles and a normal race 3 laps and the Burton Cup therefore 4 laps.

    Normal races have changed over the years.  But the Burton Cup has remained the extended original normal race.

    As a result I understand that these revisions are entirely within the spirit of the intention of the race.  I think they represent a significant improvement although I would still like to sail a 2 hr 15 minute race in cracking conditions and not get stopped a little early just because of the clock.

    Looking forward to Shoreham!

    Boats / Re: N3320 Quasimodo
    « on: December 07, 2019, 04:45:45 PM »
    Sending it during the Burton Cup 2018.  Ollie Meadowcroft and Alex Pausey

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