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I think you should stop agonising about what you can't do and start getting excited about what you can do ... so it's a lightweights boat, great, find some lightweights who want to sail a very nice racing dinghy.

Every class has an ideal weight and for the 12 it's quite light that makes it ideal for parent/child partnerships.

If I wanted to sail with my child (if I had one) then I would chose a 12, what are the alternatives a Mirror or Feva??

The 12 is a very sophisticated and elegant racing dinghy for lightweight teams. You can still build you own to your own design in your garage if you wish on a budget (large or small)... you have loads of things to be positive about, I'd stop worrying about things that the boat can't be and start getting motivated about the good bits ...

I suspect Philip is talking about me(us) so I will just put the record straight.

We have moved on from the class for a number of reasons the main ones being:

1) We are too heavy to be competitive in my view ... I know some will say that different designs carry weight better but none were for sale. Graham & Tom are in a different class to the rest of the fleet and I suspect they are sailing very light. First Tub was 7th.

2) There are too few fixtures on decent water (i.e. open sea). So there are not many opportunites to benchmark boat speed.

3) Turnouts are poor.

There are other reasons which I have shared with the ex & present chairman for their consideration.

With regards to rule change - I wouldn't do it, the class is small now so don't split it down even further.

I had plenty of calls about my boat so there is demand but all were current 12 owners so no new blood was interested.

Going forwards there are many challenges for the fleet - but if you could revive amature wooden building I think that could really help. Dare has proven that a home built wooden boat can be both competitive & cheap ... not many classes can offer that.

Boat sold to Nigel & Chris White - we wish them all the best with their new boat.

This boat is now sold, good luck to Nigel & Chris White.

Judging by the number of calls I had there is a strong demand for good N12's.

All the best to the 12 fleet.

Details here

http://www.national12.org/adverts/detail.php?id=133

This boat is now for sale ...

Details here

http://www.national12.org/adverts/detail.php?id=133

[quote by=James_Taylor link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1185282281,s=0 date=1185282281] ;DNot long now every one,

Do we have a list of entries?
And Numbers on how many hopefully are coming?

Cheers
James
N3402
N3304 (Up For Sale)[/quote]

We must know now how many are goingto be there ??

[quote by=Antony link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1185438557,s=4 date=1185460479]Sorry, we have probably been a bit tardy in advice for 1st timers.

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Is there anything else we should know?

Is there any sort of dress code for the dinner?

[quote by=John_Murrell link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1183820755,s=1 date=1183844518]From memory its to stop a jib attachment point moving about, especially if you are using a jib boom a la Malcolm and Big Issue[/quote]

Ah I see ... to stop this ...

Excellent news ... a very high quality builder.

How many entries are there now?

Jim,

You are wrong ... why not do some research rather than trotting out hearsay ...

After the 2004 Olympics the 49er dropped the weight equalisation.

See

http://www.sailing.org/classes/ClassRules/2005/49errules2005.pdf

Section C.6

All competitive 14's are build to max width as are 12's ...