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A short mohair roller also gives very good results but haven't experienced any problems with loose hairs. Haven't tried thinning down the last coat yet.

Phil
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A further opportunity to get out on the water and get some practice in after Bristol Corinthian the previous weekend.

Usual format of on the water session followed by video debrief, all on what you want to practice, it's all up to you.

Follow the link to "Coaching sessions" to see where we are, the following link will give you more info on the club

http://www.spinnakerclub.co.uk

Start time advertised as 10:30 am, that's the rigged and ready to sail start time, the kettle will be on by 9:30. Unlikely that we will have any catering on site that day so bring your own butties.


Please let me know if you're coming, any queries, let me know.

Look forward to seeing you



Phil
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Thanks John, a very helpful run down.
Rather confirmed my thoughts and I like the elimination of variables, I'll call Terry.

Phil
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Casualty of this week's gales, Fantastic Mr Fox (D8) fell over in the boat park (despite being tied down) and has a bent mast.  It's creased at deck level so I don't think it will straighten satisfactorily.  
Any thoughts on type of carbon mast for a crew at the heavier end of the weight spectrum, Superspar perhaps?
Anyone with one in their garage?

Phil
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. We feel like the old 505ers and FD´s.

 
Ted, couldn't agree with you more, the whole ISAF and the Olympic
classes needs a thorough shake up but it will never change itself -
because of negativity and self interest. And no, I never wanted to sail a Star either.

Good boats though they are, as an Olympic class, FD's were constrained by the perpetual arms race and 4 year cycle of "the event" and yo-yo turnouts dependent on where you were in that cycle. And if you were not campaigning, you were nowhere. Where is the class now?

By comparison, before the explosion of skiff type boats, the 505s were international, 100+ at every world championship and we resisted each and every suggestion that 505's should be an Olympic class, we knew when we were better off.

The result? The class that people aspired to, that Olympic sailors competed in in non Olympic years for fun and competition, all at a lower cost.

The measure of that? The Olympians (and "professionals" , sorry, getting a bit Corinthian there) would regularly get beaten (in fact usually - great for us!) and   a stiff level of competition from the typically 50+ champion helms and crews from various classes that would enter the big events. Better below the parapet, not above it!

But back to 12s, we seem to have a similar profile as the 505s, class champions in abundance, competition, lower cost and an interesting boat.

Long may it continue.

Phil
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Tim

What about
 
Wait until the paint has really hardened off then old, worn, 1200 W&D with a hard sanding block (to only take off the high spots) run lightly over the surface used with running water from a hose pipe. If it's a 2 pack paint, the marine polishing compounds have a bit more "bite" than T cut and give a good finish.
 
Absolutely no guarantees.
As all the warnings say, "try on an inconspicuous part first"

Like the logo on the front, design on the back and on a polo shirt.

How about on the back


N    (But much bigger)
Twelve


Reasons  for sailing one

Fast
Fun
Friendly
Families
Classic
Leading edge
Evolutionary
Awesome
Brilliant
Wild
Beautiful
Perfection

   â€¦ just do it!


Or pick your own adjectives

Hi James

I would be surprised if a S&T foil had any low spots in it when new. More likely it's the accumulation of paint in which case the original shape in under there somewhere, keep sanding until you find it. To avoid creating more hollows or flats, scribble over the surface with a soft pencil so you can see where you are sanding

If you must fill, try adding 15% microballoons to SP106 to give a easily sanded filler. Adding collodial silica to epoxy with some form of filler is great for repairing edge chips but if added as a surface filler it increases the hardness too much. If the filler is harder than what you are filling, you end up sanding the surrounding surface more than the filler - back to where you started! Alternatively one or two coats of primer should fill those low spots but you would still be left with sanding back the rest of the foil.

An alternative to spraying is to apply 2 pack with a short mohair roller and then lay off lightly  with a foam brush (single pass is usually sufficient). With Epifanes 2 pack polyurethane that gives a mirror like "wet look" finish straight off the brush (that shows every imperfection - trust me!) When completely cured, lightly rub down with 1200 W&D

Good luck

We'll be there

 (dance)

I was sceptical about using brushes believing that they were always the best method of application. Undoubtedly the professional can get a mirror finish with a brush but as a mere mortal I've always found it difficult to avoid runs etc.

I hadn't tried this method before but Marineware are the UK agents for Epifanes so I was prepared to give it a go. As Mark says, the roller allows you to quickly work out the paint to an even coat which helps avoid runs and maintains a wet edge over the whole hul. A roller on its own leaves an orange peel finish but the trick is the foam brush just pulled lightly once over the surface.

The effect is magic but beware, it's so smooth, it will show up any imperfections in the surface underneath. The finish and ease of application were so good, I wouldn't dream of doing it any other way now.

Simon

I would thoroughly clean the surface first with a solvent to remove any contaminants then rub down with 320 W&D used wet. Allow to dry, vacuum the surface and the floor and then rub over with a tack rag immediately prior to painting

I've had excellent results with 2 pot applied with a short haired 4" roller laid off immediately with a 2" foam brush which gave an immediate mirror finish which stayed. Because it is quick to apply this way, there isn't a problem maintaining a wet edge on the paint. I used Epifanes 2 pot and it was Tim Rudin at Marineware that suggested the method of application and it worked a treat!

Good luck and happy painting

Just to confirm that it's on

Please be there at 9:30 (when the kettle goes on) to be changed and rigged ready to sail by 10:30

No catering tomorrow I'm afraid so bring your own butties and it looks like you'll need the sun cream as well!

See you tomorrow

(sunny)

Ian & Alex

The objective of the coaching day was primarily to give Spinnaker 12s an opportunity to practice under, hopefully, a watchful eye and some local expertise. At the same time, the club has kindly allowed us to open up the day to non members for something for which there is clearly a demand .

Spinnaker is a very well used sailing resource.  The calender at this time of year is exceptionally full with team racing and open meetings taking up the majority of Saturdays to the end of the season. The alternatives were to hold a coaching day now, at the end of October, in the middle of November or not at all.

I'm afraid I took the decision to hold it now to allow some practice before the end of the season and all the N12 meetings between now and then in what looks like is going to be reasonable weather. I did take in to consideration the N12 calender and, of the available Saturdays, I had hoped I had chosen a day that had the least possible local clashes.

My sincere apologies to Up River if they consider their turnout might be affected. To me, anyone based around London and points east has an excellent opportunity to, as you say, have a weekend of  mixed sailing venues with minimal driving and if I lived up there it would be my first choice.

There we are, reply to rant over.

At the end of the day, it's about getting as many people as possible out there, in N12s and enjoying it. I hope the clash, unfortunate that it is, will not be a pointless one.

For those coming to Spinnaker, we look forward to seeing you and to those going to Up River and Thorpe Bay, have a great time.

Cheers

Hi James

Apologies for the short notice. It came about in response to the view that more practice is "A Good Thing", however, our calender at Spinnaker is a bit busy at this time of year so we didn't have too many dates to choose from.

We'll be doing more training next year, a couple of sessions I hope, and we'll make sure there is more notice.

Cheers

There will be plenty of opportunity for you to practice the things you want to practice in a familiar format of briefing/discussion, on the water session, video debrief etc

Please let us know asap if you are coming, no prob if you are not quite sure yet, but we would like an indication  of numbers and if they warrant it, we will split the fleet into groups.

See the link for directions

www.spinnakerclub.co.uk

Start time for the first briefing is 10:30. Please be rigged and ready to sail by then to make a prompt start.

Spinnaker is reasonably sheltered so adverse weather should not be an issue

Look forward to seeing you!