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What was the idea behind the rotating board?
Jon

Cheers Jon,
It came to me at work and  I just couldn;t wait to get home to look up the rules!!!
Back to the drawing board then!  

Spot on Jim,
The 12 is so versatile it can be anything you/the market want it to be.
It's like when the Vareo was launched by RS they sold it as a performance racing dinghy with enough room for dad to take the kid out when he was not racing!
That is just made up hype! but people bought it!
I think the 12 could be sold a lot better.  

Are masts allowed to rotate in the rules?
If not then what was the idea behind not allowing them?
I remember someone saying wing sections are not allowed but are there any other limitations?

It would be really interesting comparison  and I'm sure great  publicity to have at the boat shows stating various  weights etc, and I'm sure we would do well in the comparison, even on new build price against 2k and 200.

i think you can cut down that list a bit too as otherwise you would end up with every 2 person boat! I think you can take out the feva as it's a pretty tiny boat and maybe even the miracle as it's crap! - no offense to anyone who has a 2nd boat that happens to be a mirracle! Even th e 2k is a bit more a of a family cruiser than a nimble racing dinghy. if that's what they want then the n12 would not be for them anyway.

Why not have a National 12 day?!
Get boats to meet up at clubs so there are 4-5 boats at big ish clubs around thecountry and let people tyry them ?
We have an open day at our club for general sailing and get hundreds of random people turn up.
not sure if it would really work but thought mihgt suggest it!

main problem i see is trying to stop people buying rs200s.  they are the only real new build threat.
why not do a comparison in y&Y, stating weights and performance etc.
put them on an inland lake and get them to race and see difference in performace!

[quote by=Jimbo41 link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool,m=1163443689,s=6 date=1163498762] Hmmmm. How would you do it Jon_P?

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Not sure Jim,

But alot of people go for a wander round and have a look.  they fancy having a nosey and the 12 looks great so we should have no problems!!! If i was going to the boat show i would not want to be asked how old i was, hiow many kids i have and how often i compete.  Do you see what I mean?  Not exactly good marketing!

I think web or phone is the best way of doing it.  

I might as well answer the thread too! sail with my partner (she's female!)  both 24.  Race a RS vareo when have no crew.  Race at club level every week in nottingham. Boat is 20 years old.  Wil try and get to a few natioanl events next year.  

You have to be careful at the dinghy exhibition because you want to  promote the class and if you are having a survey put in front of you it might put people off? The fear is being mailshot for the rest of the year!

I had no problem in resolving in at our club.  We have different PY's for the different 12s, works fine.

I think it is really important otherwise people get really frustrated when they get better and finish lower than they should.  

It's obviously a little open to abuse and a little discretion needs to be used in club fleets.

Jon

They are talking about us on the RS Vareo board!
Apparently  they want some coaching like we and the RS 600s have!

Hi all,

The crew has finally decided it's too cold so the boat is now tucked up in the garage.  It's going to be the inside of the boat done first and it's in need  of a bit of a tidy up.

Where the varnish has run into the corners at joints it's starting to lift a little.  When it gets to this stage is the only way to get it looking good to strip it all off first? any handy hints would be appreciated.

Jon

3211

Fancy telling us newbies how these boats changed things?

Anyone shed any light on Gryphon 3214?
She looks like a nice boat, was she a  one off design? was she quick etc.
Thanks
Jon

exactly what the class needs, great job!

xc weather is normally pretty good and they say between 8 and 15mph throughout the day.
Jon