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Title: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: NeilupNorth on 31 Jul 2020, 09:43
Looking for some tips on how to tack with the aft mainsheet. I've sailed for several years in boats with a centre mainsheet where you tack facing forwards, pushing the tiller extension across in front of you as you go. I'm struggling a bit with tacking facing out the back. Whatever I do I seem to end up in a heap on the cockpit floor, with the mainsheet wrapped round the tiller extension!! I think the extension may be a bit too long which isn't helping matters. Is there a clever way of doing it better?
Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: alann on 31 Jul 2020, 08:43
Hi
Hard to describe exactly how I do it but the main difference is changing hands before you start the tack and facing the back of the boat as you change sides leading with your front foot
Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: John m on 01 Aug 2020, 11:38
Sailing along close hauled.

Tiller in hand nearest back of the boat, mainsheet in hand closest to the front.

Swap hands.

Feet are really important.  Start steering into the turn, mainsheet still fully in.  Foot closest to the bow must more first and needs to cross the centreline.  Then as you pass head to wind twist around facing the stern which will mean your other foot crosses the centreline.  Ease some mainsheet.

Keep the tiller extension outboard on the new tack.

Sit on the new high side.  Hands are already sorted (you did this before you moved the tiller!). Pull the mainsheet back in.

Through the tack allow your hand to slide up and down the tiller extension as necessary.  It makes your life easier!

Have a look at the 2002 video from 1 min 10 seconds in for some nice tacks

And in the 2020 video at 1 minute 20.

https://www.national12.org/videos/# (https://www.national12.org/videos/#)

Final top tip - keep it slow, don't oversteer, move gently.  Your weight hitting the new high side should cause a "ripple" effect on the shroud which will cause the top batten to flick over on to the new tack.



Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: grazz on 04 Aug 2020, 09:57
Have you checked out the boat handling tips on the N12 website at https://www.national12.org/hints/coaching/coaching_tacking.shtml these might give you some ideas
Happy sailing
Graham
Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: NeilupNorth on 21 Sep 2020, 04:06
Thanks for all the helpful replies. We had a good day of club racing yesterday. Gradually getting better at it and no longer think the boat is trying to get rid of me!
Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: andymck on 28 Sep 2020, 10:51
When transitioning back to a rear mainsheet boat. The one piece of the technique I always ground tacks on is to swap first. Then as you cross the boat. Put each hand out to the side. This allows you to keep tiller and sheet a long way apart. And push off with your rear sheet hand to get across the boat.
As you then sit on the new side. The hands are apart and come back into the correct position as you sit down.


Facing forward was always the harder one.


Andy
Title: Re: Tacking with Aft Mainsheet
Post by: John m on 29 Sep 2020, 08:09
I love the "hands apart" advice.  Top tekkers