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Title: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: MikeDay on 18 Jun 2005, 10:08
One or two people today at Spinnaker had heard that the Pevensey meeting in July may be switched to Littlehampton.  Is this confirmed?

Mike D
N3496
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: Kevin on 19 Jun 2005, 01:20
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Post by: JohnMurrell on 19 Jun 2005, 04:08
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Post by: Mikey C on 19 Jun 2005, 06:36
So, we need 35 boats there basically just to really throw them a curve. Maybe they might give us a reasonable refund on the entry fee for a large number of boats...

Sounds like a challenge to me - I'm in if theres another 34 boats too!

Cheers

Mike C
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Post by: John Meadowcroft on 20 Jun 2005, 09:40
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Post by: Fran (Guest) on 20 Jun 2005, 12:35
Well,

Somewhere along the lines I may have been responsible for some Chinese Whispers so a confession there of sorts.

On the subject of this year - I think that 5 races, on the weekend shown on the fixture list, should be embraced.  We have been let down a little by the 14's as I believe we're not expecting too many of them, so PBSC have upped the entry a little, but I think we usually pay about 25 therre anyway.....

I'm there with Mike C, and following conversations that I have had with the likes of Mike and Anne and Will and Arthur they will, I think, add a further 2, so we only need 31 more and we're laughing.

To be honest any more than 20 boats is always great racing.....

Love fran
3431 Zippy
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Post by: Antony (Guest) on 20 Jun 2005, 01:18
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Post by: DavidW on 20 Jun 2005, 01:45
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Post by: david greening (Guest) on 20 Jun 2005, 05:13
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: MikeDay on 20 Jun 2005, 06:05
I'm with the consensus emerging above.  We don't have many sea meetings and it's hard for a club to justify putting one on for us if they don't have any 12s themselves.  I'd prefer it to be a 12 only or shared with one other class, but I'd rather be there with their club racing than not at all.  So, we should try to get as many boats as possible and give Kevin and others more bargaining power for next year.  Anne and I will be there with Flipside.

Mike D
N3496
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: Bob Murrell (Guest) on 20 Jun 2005, 06:11
The Twelve open at Chipstead has always had to share with other classes due to pressure on the club race program. The area of water is a lot smaller at Chipstead!
A shared start is better than no start. Don't lets go the way of F1 last weekend! What a shambles.
Bob
3435
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: matt (Guest) on 20 Jun 2005, 06:16
yes - 30 quid doesn't sound like the too much given the committee boat, rescue cover, unusually splendid sailing area etc. I'll certainly do my upmost to be there.
Matt
N3486
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: Little Bo on 21 Jun 2005, 02:58
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Post by: Graham Iles on 22 Jun 2005, 12:30
Last time I checked a large proportion  of our open meetings, whether on the sea or inland involved comittee boat starts. So I don't see why this should be used as an excuse for excessive entry fees. Sea Sailing does require extra safety cover so I agree such events should be more expensive.

I've always thought that entry fees tend to reflect the quality of the shoreside facilities as much as the sailing. Whether or not this is true, or the way it should be is slightly academic. I often leave Pevensey feeling its poor value for money.

Since money is tight for me I'll be taking it elsewhere as Yachting offers more sailing for my very few pennies.

Graham
P.S. Will you be allowed to use the winches this year?
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Post by: Geoff & Amelia on 22 Jun 2005, 10:54
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: Kevin on 23 Jun 2005, 10:23
Probably time for some observations on some of the comments made so far:

First, the suggested entry of only 6 boats has come from the club. I don't know where they got that idea from but I believe we had about 20 boats attend last year and I have consistently reminded the various club reps I have been dealing with of this. If you count up the people in the earlier postings who have said they will attend and add in the two who have confirmed the same to me privately the total is about 10 so far. That means we are nearly covering the cost of the weekend based on Martin's figures but not allowing anything for prizes, profit, etc.

Next, Gill series status. About 13 months ago when we started planning for this year (yes, we do start that early!) it was suggested Pevensey should be given Gill series status. However, once I eventually got hold of the correct contact details, the club made it clear it would not entertain an open meeting for less that 35 boats and was really looking for 40. It was the opinion of the class that we are unlikely to reach 35 boats even with Gill series status. With the Larks having dropped it from their calendar we had to look for another class to partner with. Unfortunately, as explained above, one was not forthcoming until the last minute and certainly the Gill series was fully scheduled by then.

I hope that helps clear up a few misconceptions. Please continue posting comments, especially if it is to confirm you intend to go to Pevensey.

Kevin
Title: Re: Pevensey ... or Littlehampton??
Post by: Tim  L (Guest) on 24 Jun 2005, 08:28
I should be there but I need a crew!!

Tim
N3497