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Title: Scottish champs.
Post by: GregPitt on 28 Mar 2009, 10:43
Just a quick check to see if there is any Idea of number for the scottish champs at Annandale?
 
Would there be anyone there who would be able to measure sails. or is there anywhere I can get them done befor?
 
Greg N3473
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 28 Mar 2009, 11:20
Tim and Yvonne will be there with N3227. Ref a measurer ... I think  Brian Herring is going so he might be able to do them for you - give him a ring. Tim
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 29 Mar 2009, 12:55
Team Roly Mo will be there, with Andrew crewing and Bernard trying to manage without his crutch!  The girls are just looking forward to some good old chilling, and of course the curry night!
Annandale's hospitality is the stuff of legends, and it's always a well supported and incredibly well run meeting so hopefully lots more people will come out to play.  Understand Chadders is a pretty definite possibility too.
Team RM
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Chadders on 29 Mar 2009, 05:29
Team Squidgy are also heading to Annandale, anyone got any info on BnB in the area?8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 29 Mar 2009, 08:01
I was going to post somthing to get an idea of numbers once I got the notice of race but never mind. Agent Orange will be there and I am pretty sure a certain ardvark will be sniffing about. As for b&b John Hugo would be the man to speak to, Last year we camped in the boat park! Curry night should not be missed, last year Bernard and Howard wined all night........ but only because it was included in the price.8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 29 Mar 2009, 08:25
http://www.stayatbriarwood.co.uk/
http://www.royalfourtowns.co.uk/content.php?id=109
http://www.murrayfieldbb.co.uk/location.html

A quick google revealed these three. The first one is about 1/2 a mile from the sailing club, the second a couple of miles away, and the third about 6 miles away.

Boatpark camping possibly not a goer anymore, we went and put gravel down over most of it although there is a small patch of grass.
http://www.caravansitefinder.co.uk/park/2436/
this caravan and campsite is just down the road.
There are bound to be a few more B&Bs and the like that don't have the same web presence that we coul dig out details of if requireded.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 30 Mar 2009, 01:25
Howard - I'm booked in at Briarwood on the Sat night - don't know if they have any more rooms.  I'll call you with the number if you need it.
Anybody any idea of the time of the first race on the Saturday- the Club website suggests 13.00 - is that right??  Would certainly make travelling up on Sat am more manageable.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Chadders on 30 Mar 2009, 08:51
Many thanks for all the accomodation pointers Team Squidgy are now booked in.  Briarwood has only one room left but we got in at Smallrigg which looks to be in walking distance.  We will be driving up am Saturday too so 1300 looks like a good start time.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Mark (Guest) on 31 Mar 2009, 10:43
We're coming.  Kiddy care sorted but no accommodation for saturday night yet.  Either going to camp or B&B it.  Might wait until a bit closer to the time to see what the weather is doing.
Be interested to see the new piece of gear on Bernard's boat, rumuor is that he has got a dangley crutch!
Mark
3472
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 31 Mar 2009, 01:39
It is my new secret weapon and is being fitted with a James Bond style Aarvaark terminator.  Come near the rudder this year and the Aardvaark gets it!
RM
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Mikey C (Guest) on 31 Mar 2009, 05:47
So the AARDVARK should be safe then eh RM? I sometimes wonder how many emails to me go astray and if I should change my business name...

Cheers
Mike, Head of Aardvarking at Aardvark HQ
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 31 Mar 2009, 11:21
Sounds too much like Aardverk to me
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 01 Apr 2009, 09:59
Ah but Mike, if you changed your business name you'd appear further down alphabetical lists...
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Mark (Guest) on 01 Apr 2009, 12:51
Has the start time been confirmed as 1pm?
Mark
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 01 Apr 2009, 03:28
As Luke is OOD, I hope he will confirm Saturday start time.   ASC usually start the first race after noon, to allow more time for travellers.  
Greg, I hope we will be seeing you again at Annandale, in a Twelve this time.   ASC race management are not normally too strict about measurement. but I am expecting Brian Herring to be there, and I am sure he will oblige.
I aim to provide some more B&B addresses in the next couple of days, and I will check out the possibilities of camping at the Club.
Un Poco Loco N3475
     
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 01 Apr 2009, 05:05
Will there be room for the Daisy Bus to park up at the club for the weekend?  Those signs in the toilet blocks at the nearby campsite about washing and gutting fish are TOO frightening for words!
RM
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 01 Apr 2009, 05:19
Ulp.... I suspect the one o'clock start is right, I haven't been alerted to any alterations to what is in the club programme. Parking the bus should be ok I would suspect, although we might need to check that for you. I suppose it depends on how many GPs we have coming.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: GregPitt on 02 Apr 2009, 09:15
Thanks John, I will be there, accomodation booked!! will have to see how I get on in a 12 rather than a GP! I'll get there early so if there is a chance of measuring sails there will be time. Hoping for a little less wind than there was last time I was there!! really looking forward to it. I take it the event is joined with the GP's again?
Greg
N3473
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 02 Apr 2009, 10:38
Just back from a jolly committee meeting.
1300 start on the Saturday.
GP Training on the Saturday then an open on the Sunday. Not the Scottish this year so should be a much smaller fleet.
Will be ok for Daisy Bussage.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Chadders on 02 Apr 2009, 10:50
Must have been a Jolly Meeting!!  I didnt realise the event started on Friday is this correct or was it a really good meeting?
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 02 Apr 2009, 11:20
Fixed it.
My brain hurts.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 02 Apr 2009, 11:20
ACCOMMODATION LIST LOCHMABEN AREA                                   

B and B                                 

Ardbeg Cottage                Lochmaben         01387 811855   

Claymore Lodge                Lockerbie              01576 202357                roger&liz@claymorelodge.co.uk

Garholm                 Johnstonebridge                01576 470860                sylvia.harper@lineone.net

Newboulds                Lochmaben         01387 810462                J.Newbould@ukgateway.net

Summerlea                Lochmaben         01387 810727   

Carik Cottage                Lockerbie              01461 600652                 cehislop@aol.com

Corrie Lodge                Lockerbie              01576 710237   

The Elms                Lockerbie              01576 203898                theelms@gofornet.co.uk

Castlebank                 Lochmaben         01387 810350    (Kathy Ward â€" by the Sailing Club)

                                               

                                               

CAMP/CARAVAN SITES                                

Halleaths Caravan Park                Lochmaben         01387 810630   

Kirk Loch Caravan Park                Lochmaben         none      

                                               

Both sites accept tents and caravans and are within 5 minutes of the Clubhouse.                           

Booking is not usually essential at Halleaths and Kirk Loch is simply turn up.                    

Kirk Loch is near the centre of Lochmaben within a short walk of shops and pubs.                             

                                               

                                               

HOTELS/GUEST HOUSES                                               

Rosehill Guest House                Lockerbie              01576 202378   

Murray Arms Guest House       Dalton                    01387 840635   

Lockerbie Manor                  Lockerbie              01576 20261                 info@lockerbiemanorhotel.co.uk

Somerton House                  Lockerbie              01576 202384                somerton@somertonhotel.co.uk

Dryfesdale Hotel                  Lockerbie              01576 202427                reception'dryfesdalehotel.co.uk

Ravenshill House                 Lockerbie              01576 202882                RavenshillHouse.Hotel@virgin.net

Kings Arms Hotel                Lockerbie              01576 202410                reception@kingsarmshotel.co.uk

                                               

INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM:

DUMFRIES AND GALLOWAY TOURIST OFFICE. 01387 253862
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 02 Apr 2009, 11:24
That's the 'official' club accommodation list I was sent. Not sure about it's up-to-datedness but should be a few opporchancities in there.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 03 Apr 2009, 11:09
Thanks Kenny, you've done my job again.   Pity you're going to be too busy to rig to rig my boat, which Dave winder says now looks as good as new.   Unfortunately, there's still the old problem of the nut on the end of the tiller.
Let's hope the catering will be up to last years standard.   I'd better make sure Angus gets his vegetarian option.
John
 N3475
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 04 Apr 2009, 09:08
I still can't convince myself that boat is anything other than brand new....8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 05 Apr 2009, 07:55
Luke if you are in the rescue boat does that make it luke-as -aid?;D
Curry night! The Ice cream man could be needed to help us keep our cool.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 09 Apr 2009, 09:08
We now have at least eight boats coming, anybody else?
Notice of race is now posted on the web site in case anybody hasn't noticed.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 11 Apr 2009, 11:07
Hi - NOR states that 6 races are scheduled to be sailed over the two days but that only TWO races need to be completed to constitute a series.
Does that mean sailing two races is all you need to do to qualify - or am I missing something? Tim
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 11 Apr 2009, 09:32
I think it just means that two races have to be completed for the trophy to be awarded.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 14 Apr 2009, 12:25
That's what I thought - so is there a particular minimum no of races we need to do to qualify? 
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 14 Apr 2009, 09:06
Tim I think 11.3 answers your question. Basically more than 4 races 1 discard, less than 4 no discard if I've read it right.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 16 Apr 2009, 09:14
Doh! Thanks Angus. Tim
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 17 Apr 2009, 09:30
We are now expecting at least ten boats for the Scottish Champs, including two ASC twelves.
John
N3475 
   
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 20 Apr 2009, 08:32
Team 'Why Can't You ..?' are likely to make the trip if the forecast is fair with some breeze so we're watching  http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/dg/dg_forecast_weather.html  with interest.
Fair weather looks likely with temperatures well into double figures .... now if the same could be said for the wind-speed in mph ......

Och, I think we'll make the trip.

Does the club have a policy re dogs? Is there a walk around the pond?
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 20 Apr 2009, 12:59
Dogs are generally welcomed, as long as they are under control blah blah blah blah.. and so forth.
http://www.lochmaben.org.uk/
http://www.lochmaben.org.uk/uploads/Castle%20Loch%20Leaflet%2008%20v3.pdf

A lot of work has been done on the path along that side of the loch and is really is quite nice. In fact I may go for a stroll there myself this afternoon.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 20 Apr 2009, 01:25
Thanks Luke,  It all looks very nice. I think Imay sell the weekend to Mrs P. too!
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 20 Apr 2009, 03:22
I have edited the post above as it turns out google must have done something weird and taken me to an older version. The above link to the PDF now takes you to the most recent version with more extensive paths.
I did go for a stroll.
It was very nice indeed...
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 20 Apr 2009, 03:59
Thanks 'Luke',
Mrs P is sold on the idea and Hilleath are expecting us.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 20 Apr 2009, 08:09
Just be warned, there always used to be terrifying notices at Halleaths warning that anyone from the statics caught in the toilet blocks would be charged (with what we always wondered) and banning the gutting and filleting of fish in the loo blocks too!  Nice site though, and quite handy for the club.  You will see it on the right as you come towards Lochmaben.
See you there!
Mrs RM
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 20 Apr 2009, 11:12
Howay Chris, divn't take any notice aboot the fishin, its just to keep the geordies under control.   Looking forward to seeing you at the week-end.
John N3475
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 21 Apr 2009, 11:57
Met Office forecast for Lockerbie on Saturday predicts sunny periods, 17C, and more importantly for those of you that like that sort of thing, 14mph southerly breeze.   Brian Herring and I would like a bit less[face=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]. [/face]
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 21 Apr 2009, 12:03
Perhaps I'll take Xanthus! Then again perhaps I'll take both boats and decide on the day!!!!!!!!!!
RM
;D
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 21 Apr 2009, 07:35
Good choice Chris you won't regret it... well not a lot anyway.
Well mr. Mo thats the problem if you have two boats, You should of kept your cheshire cat.;D
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 21 Apr 2009, 08:16
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/
up to now weather looks fair and winds lightish.
Am I obsessive? I keep logging back and of course they're constantly revising the wind forecast for sat afternoon. was 2-3mph , then upgraded to 11 - 12mph and lately  7 - 10 mph for eskdalemuir.  Did three in a drifter on sunday past; - have no wish for a repeat. Double figures would be nice.
C'y'all there.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 23 Apr 2009, 05:46
Whilst the rest of Team RM are out sailing (alright for some I say) I aAm busy working out what I need to pack up for the weekend and wondered if Kenneth or John could indicate whether lunch be available in the club (for sailors and their accompanying ground crews) on Saturday and Sunday?
Looking forward to a lovely weekend,
J
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 24 Apr 2009, 07:19
Sat afternoon tea, Saturday evening meal and
Sunday lunch included in entry fee.  Bacon Rolls available both mornings and
soup/rolls for Saturday lunchtime.
So that sounds like a yes! 8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 24 Apr 2009, 07:29
Fantastic!  My shopping list has just got an awful lot shorter!:)
J
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 24 Apr 2009, 09:36
Last but one post answered my question  ...  so you could enter Mastermind with specialist subject 'answering the question before the one before the question being asked' !!   It resembles 'live chat 1to1 on facebook'.
Well, I should be packing not posting. we're looking forward to the trip.
Predictions for the weekend have been variable. I see chart now predicts general hp but with weak depression forming off southern Ireland. With lines on the chart the odds are it will not be a drifter. Will we get the nose up? - Lets hope so!
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 24 Apr 2009, 11:53
Annandale seems to get the sea breeze effect.  Don't know how southern ireland will effect it. Boat packed and ready, motor home sort of ready, the rest of us no where near.
B
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 24 Apr 2009, 05:00
Thanks for answering the lunch question, Kenny.   I was pressed for time, as I had an appointment with the saw-bones in Glasgow this morning.
John    
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 24 Apr 2009, 07:20
Could I put in an order for a couple of egg rolls sunday morning
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 24 Apr 2009, 07:23
oh bye the way I hope he did a good job John The saw bones I mean and sawed thr right bits.
And which boat roly or are you bringing both.
And no the crew has changed his mind again and we won't be there tonight
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 26 Apr 2009, 09:51
Well, what can we say?  Nothing much except that the event exceeded expectations and that Annandale ought to get an award for running the best open meetings in terms of both sailing and value for money.  Thanks to Andrew Greenhalgh for organising it all for us (you can leave out the thunderstorm if you want next year, but it did make for good spectator sport) for all those involved in the racing and for all those who made the curry evening the feast it was.  Lots of pics on Mrs RM's Facebook page (if you are new to Facebook you can't miss it - shot of Mrs RM and Miss RM).:)
Ankle sort of stood up to it, but contemplating fitting much bigger kick bars in the bottom of the boat!
Haste ye back
All of Team RM
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 26 Apr 2009, 09:53
And don't forget you got to do the Hollywood planing finish in the last race! 8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 26 Apr 2009, 09:55
Luke - the 'Scottish Brick' award was BRILLIANT.  Well done for thinking it up, sourcing the trophy and awarding it!
J
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 26 Apr 2009, 09:58
I have to give Angus the credit for that... he sidled up to me this morning... there was clearly a space in the prize list for it...
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Roly Mo on 26 Apr 2009, 10:06
Absolutely!
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 27 Apr 2009, 08:23
.. Well there were one or two moments when we did get the nose up ..  but we hope there were none where we got up anyones elses' ! ..

Annadale is quite simply the friendliest club I have ever visited so thanks to all those involved. Thanks to Andrew, to Ken for being an excellent RO, and to Shirley et al for such high standards of catering - I don't get food that good at home!  A lot of people contributed a lot of effort to making the event a success. The weather ensured those on the water had to contribute a bit by way of effort too.
We came back with a coaching tip off Ken - work on those gybes; and I have a 'note to self' - PIN THE RUDDER!
Well done, Ben, for suffering a bossy skipper   :-/  !


Six-thirty Monday morning came around far too soon, my am I sore!  C'ya next year if not before.  XX
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 27 Apr 2009, 09:15
Annadale SC and Castle Loch 0715 Sunday Morning, before the fun began .. again.    Angus was already at work repairing his shroud tension gear (out of view)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Chadders on 27 Apr 2009, 11:24
What can I add?  An absolutley fantastic weekend and thanks to all at Annandale for making it happen and the race team for awaiting our finish after the thunderstorm and 30mph suddenly stopped and dropped to zero wind and a steady downpour.  Great sailing, fantastic social and catering.  We will try very hard to come back next year!
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 27 Apr 2009, 06:39
I'd just like to add my thanks for another brilliant weekend at Annandale SC - I thought last year's event was good but this seemed better - there was certainly more wind.  For those of you who weren't there a big 'well done' to Mark and Emma on becoming the 2009 N12 Scottish champions and congratulations to Jo and Greg, new comers to the Class, who pushed them all the way to take 2nd place. 
Sailing Med's old boat 'Max Factor', they put on an impressive performance - especially given that this was their first competitive event in a 12 and they'd only taken the boat out a few times previously 'to get the hang of how it all hung together' as Greg modestly put it during the Curry Evening on the Saturday night.  What a pity they can't get down to Thorpe Bay.

A big thanks also to Cathy Hugo who stood in for Yvonne for a couple of windy races and shared some time with me both in and out of the boat in the very cold waters of Castle Loch- my learning curve in the recently acquired  'Baggy' was very steep!  In short, a really worthwhile event which deserves an even bigger turnout next year.  See you there.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: angus on 27 Apr 2009, 07:30
Yes another brilliant event put on by Annandale. even if the wind was a bit stronger than I ordered. can hardly move today though. By the time I got home last night I had started to seize up something cronic.
The freak out is certainly more fun than the crusader although we do need to move a bit quicker ourselves. Bit more practise needed.
Excellent choice for the ladybird prize by the way kenny.;D
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 27 Apr 2009, 10:00
Presumably I will need to write a brick style official citation...
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 27 Apr 2009, 10:28
And I should say that without John I would probably never have owned, and possibly never sailed a National 12. And I wouldn't be half the sailor I am today. :'(8)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: John Hugo on 27 Apr 2009, 10:43
Thanks Ken and Angus.   For helping me win an award without sailing my own boat.   Look out for me when I have read the Ladybird Book of Sailing.
It was great to get an excellent turn-out.   I hope you will all be back with increased numbers next year.   Annandale really likes to host N12 events, and Andrew G was very complementary, and said what a pleasure it was to run the event for such a well behaved fleet.  
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Tim Gatti on 28 Apr 2009, 12:15
It was really good to see such high levels of enthusiasm and skill being displayed by some much younger 12 sailors than those already mentioned, despite the challenging racing conditions.  In particular, in the teenage bracket, Andrew Mitchell and Rohan Beyts crewing for Bernard Clark and Angus Beyts, (3rd and 6th respectively) and in the 12 yrs and under bracket - the father/son /daughter combinations of Ben Palmer with his dad Chris and Rebecca Bryant with her dad Richard (5th and 7th places) all did extremely well to survive Saturday's squall and still come out smiling on Sunday for the final three races.  Well done. (Ben, I hear, is already looking forward to sailing at Thorpe Bay.)
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 28 Apr 2009, 05:39
Ah, thanks Tim, I will show this to Ben. I agree conditions were tough for the younger participants. Poor Ben has not made it in to school for two days; on the journey back he exhibited signs of something viral ( cold or flu-like) made worse perhaps by the degree of fatigue. We were *&^£$% !  Some degree of mobility has returned to me through today! 
Great competition mid-fleet and not all plain sailing at the front? Do you have the same impression as me that Max Factor just got better and better with each race? Joanne and Greg are one nice team.
Title: Re: Scottish champs.
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 04 May 2009, 10:05
Did anyone lose a multitool and spanner in a leather pouch, such a thing was found in the boat park.