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General Boards => Boats => Topic started by: ntoa on February 15, 2007, 12:25:51 PM

Title: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: ntoa on February 15, 2007, 12:25:51 PM
The life of N1777 Cinzano. Design: Mark 8, designed by: Ian Proctor in 1958
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Post by: johnk on February 15, 2007, 12:27:39 PM
This boat was painted Maroon on one side and Navy Blue on the other. This caused a certain amount of confusion to other competitors.
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Post by: Mike Liggett on February 28, 2009, 12:31:31 PM
I can confirm that Cinzano still has a red port side and a blue starboard side.  However, she no longer has the rather unusual low aspect rig that she had in her prime in the 60s and 70s.  She came 2nd in 1960 and 5th in 1961 in the Burton in the hands of John Chaplin (I recently spoke with John who was pleased to hear Cinzano was in good shape).  In the late 60s and early 70s she was sailing at Ranelagh SC and then opwned by R. Evans.  She was bought, in a very sorry state, from R. Evans in 1991, by a guy living near Oxford, who commenced restoration.  In 2002 I acquired Cinzano and completed restoration (including a new conventional rig ex. Kevin Iles).  She is now in excellent condition and is listed on the National Small Boats Register.
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: ocallen on July 16, 2009, 06:25:18 PM
I am very pleased to say that I am the new owner of Cinzano. I had heard that she was now in excellent condition and when I collected her from Mike Liggett today found her exactly so. Looking forward to a long period of ownership and some fun sailing. She joins my China Doll, N2730, and who knows what else in the future. Thank you, Mike.
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: ocallen on February 15, 2010, 07:17:22 PM
Unfortunately I am having to sell Cinzano as my teenage sons want a boat and Cinzano is just too good for teenagers to mess around in with their mates, so I think, so I've bought N2844 which is a GRP Paper Dart.
Hope Cinzano goes to a good home, enjoy her and show her off as she deserves. 
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: ocallen on March 09, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Sold to John Meadowcroft who I'm sure will enjoy her. 
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: edwillett on November 04, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
Courtesy of Mike Liggett is this picture of 12's from the early 70's in the Salcombe area. Mike acquired the photograph with CinZano when he restored her a few years ago. Notable is the low aspect rig on CinZano that was still with her when Mike acquired her. This was changed to a conventional aspect rig with the help of Kevin Iles.
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Post by: jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk on February 05, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
I am the builder (from a shell) of Cinzano (N1777) and the original owner.  Thus 'twas I who chose the bi-colour paint scheme that has confused and amused so many for so long. I have been out of touch with the Twelves since 1967 when I sold the last of my four boats. I chose the original low rig to suit the weight of the then crew. I see the boat has also lost her hefty tiller and toe bar that were such a joy in a blow downwind. It is grand to read that Cinzano has given the pleasure to others that she gave to me. She went faster than anything in my wildest dreams, over 50 years ago now. From the photos, she is now very well cared for.
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Post by: jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk on February 11, 2016, 09:55:49 AM
BTW My name is Jon Chaplin
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Post by: jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk on February 12, 2016, 11:50:58 AM
Here are some recent photos taken by current owner Richard Pausey
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Post by: jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk on February 12, 2016, 11:56:50 AM
More by Richard
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Post by: jon@frontrd.demon.co.uk on February 12, 2016, 12:23:29 PM
Final  photo by Richard Pausey.
Cinzano's owners appear to have been

1959-1964 Jon Chaplin
1964-1991 R.Evans
1991-2002 [Oxford restorer]
2002-2009 Mike Liggett
2009-2010? O’Callen
2010-2013 Ed Willett
2013- Richard Pausey

I must thank them all for keeping the name and colour scheme that I chose 57 years ago! - Jon
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: edwillett on February 13, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
I can confirm that I have never been custodian of N1777....
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Post by: Chadders on February 14, 2016, 10:24:28 AM
Think the owner 2010-13 would be John Meadowcroft, no doubt he will spot this and comment/correct.
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: John Meadowcroft on February 14, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Yes, I owned Cinzano for this period.
John
Title: Re: N1777 Cinzano
Post by: rayevans777 on December 28, 2018, 02:32:13 PM
Hi,

I am the R Evans who did own Cinzano in the from 1964 to the early 70s. The photo of her 'near Salcombe' is me sailing her in the Championship at Weymouth. I was a poor student and hence the very old and tired sails! I understood that the original owners painted her in the distinctive red one side and blue the other in order to get sponsorship from the Cinzano drink manufacturers. I also understood that this did not work.
However it was great fun seeing people I was racing with get confused about which boat was approaching them......

I am very happy to see she is still with us and hopefully giving as much pleasure as she gave me racing at Ranelagh SC on the Thames.

I lent all my historical papers and photos to the new owner but unfortunately he did not return them. I would be very grateful if I could be sent any photos or anything else you may have.

Thanks in advance.  Ray Evans