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Title: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: rick perkins on May 29, 2007, 10:35:43 AM
Anyone know the dates as I need to start planning ????
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Antony on May 29, 2007, 10:43:49 AM
Not yet, but Meds is on the case and should know soon.  It will be mid-late August on current plans, after both NWNW and Salcome YC Regatta.

Antony
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: THG on May 29, 2007, 12:40:47 PM
How many have entered for 07?  

From the survey and other discussions are we likely to see a change to the Burton Week to a longer weekend type event?  The Fevas just had a 3 day event at Whitstable - 66 entries and 8 races in 3 days.

Kean



Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: rick perkins on May 29, 2007, 01:13:34 PM
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Emma G on May 29, 2007, 02:40:59 PM
Do we know the venue yet?

If I am still working at the college (hopefully not) then will not be able to go at that time as they are likely to ban holiday late Aug because of the exam results.  >:(

Emma
N3402 & N3304
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo42 on May 29, 2007, 08:42:14 PM
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jane Wade on May 29, 2007, 09:10:42 PM
I cannot come this year (family commitments) but hope to be in for 2008.  I would also like to know ASAP when and where we are going so I can plan holiday off work, accommodation, babysitters for children, care for the cat and amusement for husband.  Please hurry up wtih the information Meds!!!

Jane
 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: rick perkins on May 29, 2007, 09:11:52 PM
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo41 on May 30, 2007, 07:56:21 AM
[quote by=rick_perkins link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=7 date=1180469512]

It is not my intention to open up a discussion about the length or format of BW.

[/quote]

Good for the above. I am also sure we can trust the committee. What the MPS sailors want/do dosn't really have anything to do with us at all......
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Mikey C on May 30, 2007, 09:11:13 AM
[quote by=Jimbo41 link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=8 date=1180508181]

Good for the above. I am also sure we can trust the committee. What the MPS sailors want/do dosn't really have anything to do with us at all......
[/quote]

What they do does, as not all good ideas come from 12 sailors alone.

Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo41 on May 30, 2007, 09:49:41 AM
[quote by=Mikey_C link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=9 date=1180512673]

What they do does, as not all good ideas come from 12 sailors alone.

[/quote]

Give me an example that's been implemented in the 12 class.
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: EmmaW on May 30, 2007, 02:27:49 PM
Who says one needs to have been implemented already?! It is just a good idea to keep an eye on what is going on in other classes, to learn new things. No need to be so insular...
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: rick perkins on May 30, 2007, 03:06:03 PM
[quote by=Jimbo41 link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=10 date=1180514981]

Give me an example that's been implemented in the 12 class.[/quote]

Jimbo ... I don't know why you are so anti ... but as you are forcing the point I believe the survey was somthing the Musto Class has been doing on-line for 3 years and the 12's thought a good idea and the Musto boat database on the forum was runnng some months ahead of the 12 implimentation. see

http://www.mustoskiff.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=00330618ba5409ad3b5263ed7d2d910f

If a class can't learn anything from new members bringing in new ideas then I think that class has a problem

BTW the Mutso class is growing well year on year and is about to have it's first 80 boat worlds.
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo41 on May 30, 2007, 03:32:56 PM
[quote by=rick_perkins link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=12 date=1180533963]

Jimbo ... I don't know why you are so anti ... but as you are forcing the point I believe the survey was somthing the Musto Class has been doing on-line for 3 years and the 12's thought a good idea and the Musto boat database on the forum was runnng some months ahead of the 12 implimentation. see

http://www.mustoskiff.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=00330618ba5409ad3b5263ed7d2d910f

If a class can't learn anything from new members bringing in new ideas then I think that class has a problem

BTW the Mutso class is growing well year on year and is about to have it's first 80 boat worlds.
[/quote]

Super! The 80 Worlds is a real success. Is it open to everyone? By the way, I'm not anti - just cautious. I am also not trying to pounce on your arguments all the time. It's just I don't see where you want to go. I know this is not the point of the thread (a frequent problem of mine) but seeing as you discuss numbers and races in the MUSTO class:
What in your opinion should we as a class be doing?
Make that clear and perhaps I can be more constructive in my comments (instead of thinking "Oh my G_d, what's coming next?)

Cheers and no hard feelings to anyone. :D

Jim
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: rick perkins on May 30, 2007, 03:53:52 PM
[quote by=Jimbo41 link=Blah.cgi?b=Cool1,m=1180431343,s=13 date=1180535576]

Super! The 80 Worlds is a real success. Is it open to everyone? By the way, I'm not anti - just cautious. I am also not trying to pounce on your arguments all the time. It's just I don't see where you want to go. I know this is not the point of the thread (a frequent problem of mine) but seeing as you discuss numbers and races in the MUSTO class:
What in your opinion should we as a class be doing?
Make that clear and perhaps I can be more constructive in my comments (instead of thinking "Oh my G_d, what's coming next?)

Cheers and no hard feelings to anyone. :D

Jim
[/quote]

Look I am just sharing my thoughts, thats what you do on forums but seeing as you are so active here I am wondering why I bother, I only asked for dates and the you hijack this thread in another direction  ...

I think the class should do what the members (and prospective members) want which I am sure they expressed in the survey.

Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo42 on May 30, 2007, 08:46:24 PM
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Emma G on May 31, 2007, 10:45:04 AM
whats the venue for 2008?  Do we know yet :)

Emma
N3402 & N3304
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: THG on May 31, 2007, 11:20:10 AM
I was wondering about the location and dates too - I know these things need to be planned well in advance but wondering if the format of the 'week' will change.  There's a history bit we should keep - the Burton race can still be a one day long race - but what about 2 other days of racing with 3 -4 races per day?  This means the Burton week could be squeezed into one longer 3/4 day weekend.

If more boats are to attend is this a prefered format that would attract more?  Maybe even split the fleet up into Gold and Silver fleets like some others do?

Have the commitee already planned the '08 or is it still open for change?

Kean
Title: Re: 2008 Nationals/Burton Week
Post by: Jimbo41 on May 31, 2007, 01:10:35 PM