...how was it? My informer was not so impressed with the 12 on display. What were everyone else's thoughts?
Jane
..and who won the Jib?
Apart from being very slighty unfinished the boat looked good. It was certainly interesting enough to keep people talking, and taking photos of the latest Peacock designed rudder fittings on the transom.
I am told that the jib went to Peter Miatt (certainly a Miatt anyway!). The more suprising fact is that there were several people there that fully intend to be at Burton Wk but did not bother to enter in time for the draw!
The rest of the show was the same as usual.....
Most importantly, Chris and Sophie did a great job of organising people and spending almost all weekend there, and many others (most notably John Meadowcroft) worked very hard on our behalf. Thanks are also due to Paul from Rondar for getting the first boat done in time and bringing and removing it.
Antony
Any pics of the new boat?
Some photos were taken by an intrepid N12 crew who was hoisted onto the stand desk :-). I have one or two close ups of the rudder fittings and can post them if there is demand - they wont win a photography prize though.
A big thank you to everyone who helped make the Dinghy Show such a great weekend for the National 12 class! Special thanks go to all those who stayed around to help pack up on Sunday night (and let us get back up to Manchester).
There was lots of interest in the shiny new Rondar Paradigm 2 boat throughout the weekend and we even had a visit from Olympic gold medallist Paul Goodison!
Thanks again,
Chris and Sophie
The Rondar Paradigm 2 prototype made it to the show and by the end of Sunday most of the glue had gone off!
The price makes you sit up £8500 including VAT, sails from your favourite sailmaker, carbon spars, carbon foils and fitted out to the Rondar spec... It is fantastic to have a new builder to the Class prepared to invest in tooling and to build a boat for himself first. If anyone wants to buy my boat, I'll have one! See separate ad.
I enjoyed the short time I was at the show on Sunday afternoon. Sorry to all those who my boys terrorised!
And I forgot. the jib.
Tom Stewart drew ticket number 48 out of the bag, so Peter Miatt won the draw for the P&B jib. I guess that we had better get in touch with him. I guess posting here will help... Contact Tom at P&B to confirm your requirements.
Thanks to P&B and thanks to all for entering. We now have 49 entries.
I got back and realised I only took one shot of the 12 stand! Just as well it clear and in focus.
I have six shots and three of those were Merlins; but don't be thinking I'd be defecting.
Great show. Nice to meet folks esp. Tom and John M. Thanks to Chris and Sophie for their efforts.
'Shame Redesmere didn't win club of the year accolade .... but impressive year for the club and great to make the final five.
Christian has taken over from Alan Mason as our 12 Fleet Captain at Redesmere.
-Chris
rondar 12 on show stand
Is it self draining? If so where does the water go, it seems to have a solid transom??????
Centreboard looks a bit scary. Methinks it likely to put to sea with one crew and return with two!
Hi Martin, They still have to cut holes in transom and fit out.............
Did Wonder!!!
For all those who were at the Dinghy Show and for those who missed it, here is the video report we did for Cowes TV:
http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml/story?story_id=6169;cp=0 (http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml/story?story_id=6169;cp=0)
It was a brilliant show but I had to work all day, so next year I'll know to stay the night in London so I can go back to enjoy the second day in freedom!
Plus, it was an amazing experience working with a film crew for the first time and interviewing no less than three Olympic sailors in one day...!
Louisa
Does the rondar boat not have a foredeck? maybe its the picture playing tricks on me but it appears to be open at the front there. Nice looking boat though! Dont think i can talk the better half round into purchasing one right now though :-P
Tony
Of course I meant to say that the new National 12 does feature briefly in the video report...
http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml/story?story_id=6169;cp=0 (http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml/story?story_id=6169;cp=0)
John
Do you use a conventional rudder when sailing on restricted water or can the exotic one be used to good effect on the rivers and such like?
I guess as the boat is as tall as a block of flats comparitively speaking and self draining a foredeck is rather surplus to requirements?
Nice video Louisa, very professional - makes the Dinghy Show look totally action packaged. Good to see the Paradigm get a mention.
No foredeck. The boat has a lot of freeboard. If water is coming over the bow you have got it really wrong!
Rudder. We have been cheating a little in this regard. The winged rudder sits in a daggerboard cassette. You lift it up and the wings then "tack" inside the transom flaps (Not yet sorted on the boat at the show). Our prototype cassette (very different from the Rondar Boat) was very stiff and not very easy to use so for genuinely inland sailing we just used a standard Winder rudder. Next time I will have a Rondar style cassette - actually made by Mike Cooke. There is no problem using the "exotic" rudder though. The real challenge is developing a system which allows you to go from foil in the water to foil out of the water with minimal hassle. Gavin Willis achieved this on the original Paradigm by using a buoyant rudder. It floated up as soon as the control line was released. However the section was inferior to the one which is now used on all of the Paradigms, which is a Mike Cooke foil.
John
If this rudder system was adopted on other 12's such as Foolishes etc, would there be a gain in performance there too?
Martin - try it and see :-). It should not be too difficult to retrofit.
It might well work, as johnk says - try it! It should be noted that the under water hull shapes are very different as well as the top sides. The Paradigm has a lot of rocker where the Foolish has much less. The T-foil rudder influences the way that the water (or the wave) leaves the boat. The back end of the boat is a very important factor - the hull and the rudder need to work together. In fact it is quite amazing how different the Foolish/Numinous/Paradox (lets call them Daser designs) are from the Chapter and the Paradigm. And then there is Jo Richards new ship...
I know that a T-Foil is being trialled on a Final Chapter this summer which will be interesting. I also believe that there is a Numinous in build which is likely to have one too. Will you be seen with out one this summer!
Perhaps something for P&B to think about for their Feeling Foolish options list...............