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Title: Measurement Certificate
Post by: ifoxwell on 19 Feb 2010, 08:09
Hi all
Looking to buy a boat... if it doesnt have its measurement certificate are duplicates available for a modest cost or does it have to be remeasured?
Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: JohnMurrell on 19 Feb 2010, 08:44
Ian,
 
All boats should have been measured - if the one you are looking at hasn't got a certificate call to Kevan Bloor will soon tell if it has been measured.
 
Duplicates are issued but remember that a certificate is only valid in the current owners name................so you have to pay a modest administration fee to reregister a boat in your own name, currently £22.50 to non NTOA members and this includes your first years subscription to NTOA - good value for money!
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: Jeremy C on 19 Feb 2010, 09:03
Ian,
So you are finally succumbing to the national 12's! What boat are you after and will we be seeing you at Burton week? would be great to see you at Burghfield at the first Gill series open on 27th March.
 
Jeremy
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: ifoxwell on 19 Feb 2010, 01:58
Hi Jeremy
Yup we are going to have to give in and get one... you know what we are like at jumping between classes but as we are the perfect size and weight for a 12 it was inevitable that we would end up here in the end.
I have enquired about several and we are just working out what will be best for us at the moment. We are having an extension built on the house which is why the Merlin is up for sale. So we are going to have to buy something cheaper... and a cheap 12 appeals much more than a cheap Merlin now that we have had a taste of a good one.
Do you know of any that we should be looking at...
Ian and Hannah
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: Jeremy C on 19 Feb 2010, 03:48
when you say cheap... what is the sort of budget you are looking at? In the not too distant future there are likely to be a gaggle boats coming on the market as there is a big build program going on at the moment in time for burtonweek 2010.
so really depends on your budget
 
give me a call if you want 07867 500307
 
jeremy
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: ifoxwell on 19 Feb 2010, 04:27
£2k would be top wack but much less would be preferable.
Ian
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: andymck on 19 Feb 2010, 08:09
There are a couple of decent boats that have been on the market for a while now, that must be worth a punt.

Andy
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: FuzzyDuck on 19 Feb 2010, 10:56
You wouldn't go far wrong with 3398. bullet proof Design 8 and still very quick. Also below your budget
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: ifoxwell on 20 Feb 2010, 09:15
We are about 18-19st all up and sail on the Medway, a river estuary  that opens up to be a pretty large expanse of water as you head down stream.
What are the most suitable designs in our price bracket?
Ian
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: Jeremy C on 20 Feb 2010, 09:37
Baggy trousers? gareth Williams (of Europe fame- what ever happened to moo?!) has his baggy trousers on the website. still down to weight I beleive and with a carbon rig. He won the admirals cup (non double bottomed entries) with it in 2008 at teignmouth Burton week, and has now upgraded to a Numinous.
Title: Re: Measurement Certificate
Post by: benb on 20 Feb 2010, 10:54
If i had about £2k to spend N3398 would be my choice but I'd have to change the name back to Charlotte Sometimes... For irrational emotional reasons I'd also be tempted by 3162 just because of it featured on the front cover of the december 1990 edition of Y&Y and that photo made me want a 12. 
Design 8s are great all rounders and would be a good choice for estuary sailing at that sort of weight (IMO). A baggy would also be good but in my experience a little bit hard to sail well the D8 lets you get away with things without stopping. 
Ben 
N1851 (currently in bits in the garage) 
(previously 3077, 3003, 2868, 3385 and sailed a few more).