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Title: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: intheboatshed on 01 Mar 2011, 05:44
A question for the boat builders/renovators.

I've just replaced the transom on Token Gesture - or most of it anyway - with 2 pieces of 5mm ply stuck together. As per the original thickness.


On the original transom there was another piece of 5mm glued in the middle of the transom, from top to bottom, where the rudder fittings were/are. I suspect the builder was hoping this would provide enough fore and aft stiffness, but clearly this wasn't the case because someone fitted a knee at a later stage.

Question - is 10 mm thick enough to fit the rudder fittings too, assuming I reinstall the knee as well. Or do I need to make it 15 mm thick?


Picture below gives a general view of the transom before I cut out the rotten part - I have already removed the knee, and most of the wood round the rudder fittings has rotted away - I made the round hole with my finger!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_iE7Le2NMimc/TLTbmYs8wwI/AAAAAAAADKI/i3nQuMXxWq4/s400/IMG_1703.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/H1upk16DWoSWoIIx-61dwzuayQm0OoBMRPCDkJcN7sw?feat=embedwebsite)
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: darebarry on 02 Mar 2011, 04:33
Your 10mm. should be plenty, however the fixing of the knee to the transom and the hog I feel is even more importent. On my wooden boats the knee is always rebated into the transom with a good epoxy filet on all the joints. Where the bolts pass through the transom for the pintals it is worth drilling oversize, filling with epoxy and then redrilling.
Best of luck Dare. N3521  
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: intheboatshed on 02 Mar 2011, 05:37
Thanks for confirming my hunch, and the additional advice is much appreciated.

Although I've still got a lot to do, I'm hoping to get her to the 75th celebrations.

Tim
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: Roly Mo on 03 Mar 2011, 08:36
Looks to me like you have a bad case of blue worm. I can see one trying to escape down a hole it's just nibbled, and looking at all the other holes they've had quite a feast!!. The only cure is to wash the boat out with dirty brown beer.  ICM may have a better cure
RM
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: icecreamman on 04 Mar 2011, 12:42
No Roly, I cannot come up with a better reply other than perhaps the worms have been feasting on both the wood of the boat and sweeties dropped in the bottom by small people, but by far the best way to cure it is indeed to wash the whole boat down in dirty brown beer; or if you are posh a quick splash of Champagne on the outside prior to relaunch is a good way of keeping the blighters at bay ICM
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: intheboatshed on 04 Mar 2011, 01:31
LOL - I managed to capture the blue worms and then released into the wild, a safe distance away.

Hope their homing instincts aren't strong.
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: johnk on 04 Mar 2011, 02:39
I would have thought that there were better uses for beer and champagne!
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: angus on 04 Mar 2011, 09:46
My thoughts exactly, let the worms have the boat and drink the beer.
Some of you may remember I had a slight worm problem with 3208 a few years back, sold the boat and drank the profits... that work OK.;D
Title: Re: Transom - how thick does it need to be?
Post by: Lukepiewalker on 05 Mar 2011, 11:53
Don't forget a lighter transom is easier to carry in the boatpark while looking embarrased...