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Title: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Roly Mo on 31 May 2009, 07:41
I know we havn't yet sailed the 2009 event, but we are soon going to need ideas for a venue for 2010, so this is your chance to stump up your favourite venue.  The venue should ideally be inland, somewhere which has 12's, and it will need to be able to cope with a large fleet, probably in late June/early July.  Camping on site is pretty high on the list of priorities too!
Any suggestions gratefully received!
Mrs RM
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: angus on 31 May 2009, 10:45
Loch Tummel sounds ideal.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: andymck on 31 May 2009, 10:51
Do they still sail 12's at Notts County?
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: OMSC on 31 May 2009, 11:35
what about Rutland. I am sure they have a few 12s there languishing inthe boat park, and they have a bunk house that allows 40 people, along with a campsite next door. fantastic facilities, althogh we would probably have to book early.
I know one of my 12s came from there last year, and another club member also bought one from there.  would be a good place to revitalise a fleet at.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: icecreamman on 01 Jun 2009, 11:18
How about Tynemouth. You can camp in the block yard, it is great sea sailing and the beer is not bad.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: THG on 01 Jun 2009, 11:28
Can you camp at Spinnaker - the Club seems to have the largest fleet in the Country.....??????
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Jeremy C on 01 Jun 2009, 12:13
How about going somewhere where twelves aren't normally seen then we could promote the class to a new audience. Bala? Don't know what it is like to get to but it is a big bit of water.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: scrapper (Guest) on 01 Jun 2009, 12:20
Bala â€" about an hours drive from the middle of nowhere in my experience.
 
On the plus side the local youth are always up for a bit of a ruck so no problem with the social.  No idea what the local classes are or who you’d be ‘selling’ to.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Phil Brown on 01 Jun 2009, 12:36
Bala. Wales' answer to Lake Garda?? Except the wind doesn't blow just up or down it, Great when it does, interesting when it doesn't
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Roly Mo on 01 Jun 2009, 01:22
I might have expected ICM and Angus to be 'controversially helpful'!  In answer to Sam's question about inland v sea - the Nationals are on the sea so it's nice to have the summer event inland to encourage people who don't like the lumpy stuff to come along. 
Mrs RM
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: sam293 on 01 Jun 2009, 01:43
fare point mrs rm.
im with jeremy on going to a new venue,

balas great, datchet usually provide a  good sail, and party. draycote waters a nice venue.
a few other possibly more controvertial choices, maybe a river venue?
or smaller inland waters, redesmere, rudyard lake etc
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: THG on 01 Jun 2009, 01:49
Yorkshire Dales aka Grimwith will have their new build finished soon - big bit of water but no camping on site - but there are local places around.   Plenty of water for lots of 12s there and quite a few members there were ex 12 sailors.
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: THG on 01 Jun 2009, 01:53
Small water withlots of camping around - could go for one of the Cotswold lakes - take your pick there are at least 4, 2 that have 12s on them...  Albacores had their Inlands on one of the lakes too recently.  New hotel opened up within walking distance for those that like the luxuries.  Go cable water skiiing nearby and even Go Ape (same stuff different name).
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: simon moss on 01 Jun 2009, 02:07
Yorkshire dales would be a great venue and is almost always windy as hell, check out last years you tube footage, also Bassenthwaite or Ullswater are both fanatstic venues, I think Ullswater has permanent camping on site with at least two other campsites next door.
Simon
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Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: sam293 on 01 Jun 2009, 02:15
but lets be honest how many of us would drive 5 hours plus each way for   days sailing?
leigh and lowtons about as far north as id travell for two days
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: FuzzyDuck on 01 Jun 2009, 03:52
Having been to the last 3 'Summer events' and still planning on being there this year, what made them special was the ability to camp on site free of charge, a good Bar, and a lake where you could pop ashore for a cuppa between races.  I agree the champs is for the sea and the Summer event should stay on a lake.
I have noticed that all these events have meant a lengthy journey North for me (Northampton, Ripon, Hykeham and now Leigh & Lowton) but so far worth the effort.
Maybe 2010 should be a bit further south, Spinnaker could be good if they can supply the three vital ingrediants.
Simon
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Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: OMSC on 01 Jun 2009, 11:10
Bassenthwaite is a great lake.  sailed there last year for the inlands for the enterprises. camping on site and good bar prices.  Perhaps an option would be to tie it in with Bass week early august, so people travelling further could stay for longer and enjoy a holiday in the lakes too?
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: angus on 01 Jun 2009, 11:32
What about derwent thats pretty central for those who don't want to travall too far;D
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Roly Mo on 02 Jun 2009, 07:24
Should have said 'needs to be pretty central' (yes I know that Ullswater is pretty central if you look at the whole of the UK from Lands End to John O'Groats!).
Keep those ideas coming!
Mrs RM
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Ian Stables on 02 Jun 2009, 01:37
Spinnaker would be delighted to host the event.

Why don't you all come for a test run on the 20-21st of June - See link from events section for details
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: sam293 on 02 Jun 2009, 02:45
ian is there free campin available on site at spinaker?
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Moon Shallow on 02 Jun 2009, 03:03
If you have an event at Rutland and have booked the whole clubhouse facilities it is free to camp on the club ground... the campsite across the road is £10 nite per tent but has no facilities so u need to use the club ones. It is a great piece of water if the bars expensive then dont drink as much u dont need to drink to have a good time lol.
Datchet would be a good one as it is london so very accesible and my sources tell me it is allways windy, as for camping not sure but you do need to be strong to pull your boats up and down.
I have another idea which is Ogston I know there used to be a few 12's around there not sure anymore but that is reasonably central, fairly big, and did hold the enterprise masters earlier this year so has the capabilities. If no camping onsite i could try and pull in a few favours and find some ground somewhere lol.
Naomi
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Roly Mo on 02 Jun 2009, 03:56
Spinnaker's offer is much appreciated but possibly too close to Weymouth to offer a balanced programme for 2010 (but noted for future years!)
 
RM
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Jane Wade on 02 Jun 2009, 04:32
I know very little about it - except that it is a reasonable size and central - but what about Carsington?
Jane 
PS See other thread - any babysitters going to the 2009 event that could cope with two more?
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: FuzzyDuck on 02 Jun 2009, 05:13
If you want central why not Barnt Green and go back to where it all began.
never been thare mind so don't know what its like!
Simon
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: sam293 on 02 Jun 2009, 05:24
yeah great idea fuzzy, done a  few events there in my time, loveley bit of water, some very expierenced race officers,
foods great, bars cheep and they know how to party
free camping too. and you can even pop in for a drink between races
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: FuzzyDuck on 02 Jun 2009, 09:30
Sam,
Sounds like my sort of club!
Simon
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: MarkSimpson on 02 Jun 2009, 09:45
What about Burghfield?  They have a 12 fleet (who also travel), bit further south than previous events, inland venue, not sure if they can offer camping.
Please not Datchet.
mark
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 03 Jun 2009, 09:26
Carsington is in a beautiful part of the world and with state of the art facilities. There is a choice of camping nearby.
I agree Bass is a great setting, too.
Those of you who know the Birkett event will know Ullswater. I can't comment on the ability to camp in club grounds but there is ample lakeside camping adjacent to the SC. As a family we chanced upon the Birkett event 3/4 yrs back, which is what rekindled my desire to return to the sport.
The Laser 2000 cruising and social group had arranged to camp at the lakeside site and the weekend clashed with the Birkett - there was great atmosphere and room for all. It had great appeal and one of the 2000 party gave me the big sell. I was nearly seduced into desiring one. ('Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned .. ) I have paid my penitence with the 12, mostly the punishment has been frequent baptism in the water. I guess we're learning faster and having more fun along the way. .. (But we didn't swim at TBYC ! - we must be improving.. or not trying hard enough:-/)    
End of confession.:)
Title: Re: Summer Event 2010
Post by: Crusader 3244 on 03 Jun 2009, 09:40
Ahh Sam, that's a great plug and brought a smile to my face. I am truly sold upon Redesmere as a potential venue and Rudyard too, Redesmere is officially 'The Best Sailing Club in theWorld', at least on facebook, and it is home to the reigning fancy dress champions, but I feel the water may not come up to everyones' expectations. If your daggerboard bottomed at Thorpe Bay, then you could expect the same on our pond. Our members our well experienced with 'mast in mud', so the thames estury was home-from-home. :-/
Christian is fleet captain, I'm sure he would discuss it with the club committee if the class desired.