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#1
It wouldn't hurt for the people that are looking to get into the fleet to post in the wanted section as well.


I suspect a lot of boats stay sitting in boat parks and garages etc because the owners dont really want to sell them, even though they dont get used. However if they new that there was someone out there looking for a boat like theirs it might prompt them into action.


Ian
#2
Personally I think it is the foils, and the fact that they do make such a difference that is stifling the growth of the class. And i say that as some one who likes them!

People on the outside looking in will see that to be competitive you need a modern foiled boat (yes i know there are exceptions to that statement but they are the exception not the rule) and modern foiled boats rarely come on the market... so you don't get new people into the class.

If we really want to stimulate growth and attract more people into the class there needs to be a greater stock of competitive boats so we ether get rid of the foils or find some other way of making the majority of non foiled boats competitive again?

Ian
3441
#3
So as much as I encourage Hannah to play the jib there are still plenty of times where it is useful to cleat the sheet. Pepsi currently has cleats mounted on top of the centre board capping but she struggles with these so what do others do?

Ian
#4
Things are stacking up against us being able to attend I'm afraid.

The clutch went on the car yesterday, although its at Mr Clutch as I type and will hopefully be fixed... however Hannah isn't so keen on the weather!

We have weather warnings in place for the south east now, and given that we will be having our daughter and dog looked after by friends she is naturally concerned that even if she could pluck up the courage to go sailing, the journey there and back could be quite fraught!

From what I hear that Exmoor Beasty and Bala Massacre have been cancelled so who makes that call on our open, given that I expect many of us will be travelling?

Ian
#5
We have only said Pepsi once so far, and that was in very light winds... so the current forecast of cold, possibly snow, and a good breeze is looking a little intimidating.


Not that will stop us coming along but it would be nicer if the wind would calm down a bit or the weather warm up


:)


Ian
#6
So Hannah and I are hoping to bring Pepsi along to Burghfield for our first 12 open meeting. Its a bit complicated with family commitments etc but Ive just pay'd the entry to provide us with some added incentive :-)

Its described as fast a furious event so what can we expect. I do vaguely know Burghfield from racing a Blaze there 12+ years ago so what are we likely to have in the way for courses, number of laps, how many boats, will we be on the same course as the OK's etc etc.

Thanks

Ian

Pepsi 3441
#7
Boats / Re: N3441 Pepsi
23 Mar 2018, 08:59
As of December 2017, Hannah and I have taken over Pepsi, 3441 and we thought we would update the database with her history... or as much as we can find out. If any of you can add something to this story then please let us know.

Back in the 1995 Bim Daser came up with Feeling Foolish... the original Feeling Foolish N12 and it didn't take the fleet long to recognise just how good the design was and so other sailors  wanted one for themselves. With this in mind, as I understand it, two moulds were taken from Bims original hull. One went to Winder boats and became the P&B Foolish, the second I believe was owned by Derek Davies and various builders have since used this to build boats from.

So in 1999 Ian Gore was looking for a new boat and as he wanted to transfer the rig and fittings from an existing boat the P&B route wasn't really an option, although when they heard what he was doing I'm told they did offer to build him a hull only, but he had by now had decided to get Nigel Waller to build him one.  Derek agreed to hire them the mould, which they had to collect on a boat trailer from Exmouth and take to Nigel who was based at Royal Harwich. I'm told this was a somewhat fraught journey! (perhaps someone could fill us in here on what actually happened!!)

The result was Tabitha / Matilda / Pepsi... she is an all carbon feeling foolish that was built by Nigel Waller in the April of 1999. We have previously owned Email, 3443 a Final Chapter built by Nigel Waller so we know how good his boats are, and I'm told that Nigel was fanatical about keeping the boats he built as light and stiff as possible. That is certainly born out by what we can see in Pepsi as she still has around 15kg of correctors built into her and is rock solid.

The boat was originally fitted with a gybing board which in the end was converted to a normal board as Ian  was never sure it how well it worked. It was also originally built without a thwart, which meant it looked fantastic and was great in a breeze, but was tricky to crew in light weather. Ian and Alex campaigned the boat properly until around 2005/6 after which family life and big boat cruising got in the way.

Ian tells me that It took a little while to get up to speed, but in the end was pretty quick and he had some good results. These were his words not mine, a flick through the 12 handbook notes the following results and although it never won the big race I think it can be said to have been quite a bit better than just 'pretty quick'
Burton Cup
2000 6th
2002 3rd
2003 3rd
2004 4th
2005 2nd
2006 2nd
Missed 2007/8
2009 6th

Silver National
2002 6th
2003 3rd
2005 4th
2006 3rd
2009 9th
2010 9th
2011 10th (first 2nd generation boat)

Gill / Gull Series
2003 2nd
2004 2nd
2005 2nd

Inlands
2000 3rd
2002 2nd
2008 2nd

Norfolk Week, several wins over the years
Thames area series 1st in 2000
Midland area 1st in 2004

In 2011 he started experimenting with a T foil using the Dare Barry adjustment system, where the whole rudder and stock rotates on the pintle, so this required little adjustment to the boat but by around 2011/2 he decided that if you cant beat them, join them, and moved over to a Dead Cat Bounce and sold Tabitha to Neal (sorry Neal I don't have your last name?)

Neal bought her as he was planning on moving up from the Admirals Cup class (he also has Indecision, a Design 8 and intended to fully restore her with the addition of a T foil.  A house move stalled things after she was completely stripped down and when 3501 (Tom Stewart's blue Foolish) came up for sale (which Keri Harris had just repainted and added a foil to) he decided that was the quicker and easier route to take so bought her.  He then had both Foolish's plus 3271 for a year or so before selling Tabitha on to Alan Hillman in Feb 2016.

Now I have meet Alan, he's a great bloke who loves his sailing but doesn't do things by halves. So having bought Tabitha he completed the job started by Neal and didn't hold back. The hull was professionally restored and painted in two pack paint, which was also in her new colour scheme, Red White and Blue to go with her new name, Pepsi. Chosen by his daughter who was also to be Alans crew. Fitted out with all Harken gear and basically bought back to 'as new' condition.

Alan and his daughter sail at Spinnaker sailing club and as great as Pepsi turned out to be she didn't really work for the sailing they were doing, so they moved on to another class which brings us up to date.

Hannah and I have bought Pepsi to sail when we can, for fun. Family life and a big boat take up a lot of our time but we are hoping to do some of the opens this year as well as some of the bigger local dinghy races. We sail on the river Medway in Kent and I doubt we will be adding to Tabitha / Pepsi's long list of achievements but you never know J

We will be sharing some of our adventures on our YouTube channel so for those that are interested you can find out how we get on here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HFKwP_loEA&list=PLsrC0qy2tqsNHMv3YeITmIPaD_0PJxa-m
#8
Thanks John
I'm keen to find out as much as I can about her history at to me its one of the things that is great about the 12. Every boat is unique and as such has a unique story to tell.
I think more people should actively fill in as much as they can on the boat database as its a real asset to the class.
#9
Hi
Thanks, completely understand I'll send you a message with my contact details
Ian
#10
Hi All
Hannah and I have just bought Ian's old boat 3441 and Id like to find out more about the boat and his achievements in her.
Can some one put us in touch
Thanks
Ian
#11
The board is 30mm at it the head but the slot appears to be 25mm further back?
#12
Hi Kevin
Good question, I'll check... but I am interested
Thanks
Ian
#13
Hi people
We have just returned to the fleet and have bought 3441.
Lovely boat that has been well restored but is let down by its foils.
I have the rudder in hand but could do with a descent centreboard. If any one has a spare kicking around that would fit in a Waller foolish Id be interested.
Not to be two fussy but I'm looking for something really nice, if I cant find one I'll just restore / try to improve, the wooden one that's in the her already, but Pepsi is in such good shape I feel she deserves better.
Any one?
Thanks
Ian
#14
Slim chance I'm sure, but does any one have any data on the underwater shapes of the significant designs from the last 20 years.


No particular reason other than I'm in the market for a boat, and I have an interest in trying to understand the differences.


Thanks


Ian



#15
There are some fantastic pictures in that lot... I can see many of those getting printed off, framed and hung on a wall some where


Ian
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