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General Boards => General National 12 chat => Topic started by: DuncanAdams on 11 Jul 2017, 08:25

Title: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 11 Jul 2017, 08:25
Hi all

Ive jus brought 3294 in the hope my daughter will sail with me  ;D

I'm tying to find out a py for her. But Can not find any things recent. A Facebook message say they use 1094 at there club. What do others use?

Also any tips will be great
Hoping to give it a clean and stick the sails up tomorrow evening

Cheers
Duncan
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: johnk on 11 Jul 2017, 09:26
The current PY is 1094. This applies to all boats. Our Class Association agrees that 1094 is correct for modern boats. For your Design 8 they suggest 1104 as a PY. Your club may well insist on using a PY of 1094. In my experience you may well find that in lighter winds you will do all right with 1094. Enjoy your sailing.
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 11 Jul 2017, 09:46
Thank you
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: gbr1918 on 12 Jul 2017, 09:18
The current RYA PY number is 1064!   That's quite tough for my Final Chapter.  Currently I'm sailing off 1064 at Ouse Amateur and 1104 at Overy Staithe.  I'm not winning races at either (too incompetent  :) ) but I don't care because just sailing the boat is such a total blast!
Dave Cooper
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: antonygifford on 12 Jul 2017, 10:31
The page you are looking for is here:
http://www.national12.org/private/Guides/handicaps.shtml

Most clubs are pretty sympathetic to the idea that 3294 is not the same as a DCB with a foiling rudder and so happy to follow the suggestion from the NTOA.  My own time in a Design 8 would suggest that they are the same speed as a Laser with a similar standard of helm.

Antony
N3348 & N3529
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 12 Jul 2017, 01:00
Thank you

looking forward to the challenge... in more ways than one...
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 12 Jul 2017, 09:38
amazing first sail

Both of us looking forward to making it go faster.

I need to replace the transom flaps any suggested where to buy some perspects ?
And Ive got adjuable shrouds... what should I do with these?
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: paul turner on 14 Jul 2017, 10:22
Yo Dunk. Glad you are enjoying your N12; told you it was more fun than being a "billy no mates"! Got some transom flap material, hinges etc. You free tomorrow morning to pop over to the farm? We are setting up a Cheshire Cat for a new TVSC member from 11:00.Cheers, P :)
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 15 Jul 2017, 06:32
Hi Paul,
I'm at the shop  :o ill drop you a message.
Dunc
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: andy 3344 on 15 Jul 2017, 09:31
For what it's worth we're sailing off 1091 at Chew Valley in 3344, a non t-foil Final Chapter.  That seems to work very well for us against good modern Solos, Streakers, etc., but we get thrashed by the high performance machinery in a blow.  That's handicap racing for you I guess.
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 16 Jul 2017, 08:38
Had to admit that after two days racing off 1100 we got spanked.

Think I need to get the boat tuned!
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: John m on 17 Jul 2017, 08:30
We sail off 1075 at Upper Thames SC.
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 17 Jul 2017, 09:22
Really I must be doing something very wrong! Thanks for your reply help!
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: StuW on 18 Jul 2017, 10:22
To be fair Duncan, John Hun is VERY good!!
Title: Re: New to the boat
Post by: DuncanAdams on 19 Jul 2017, 02:36
Sounds like it.

Had a chat with my local guru...
Few tweaks to rig set up. fix the bailers, then fix the fat lard at the back... should make the boats perform a little better!